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      07-04-2012, 06:49 PM   #1
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Check this! BMW Key generator

http://www.edilock-bg.com/en/bmw.htm

I know wrong forum etc etc.... but this is crazy.... I found the following two movies on a dutch blog:

Teft in action:



Demo of the device:




BMW has to explain something.... if this is real...
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      07-04-2012, 07:26 PM   #2
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So much for security cameras, lol.

If that key coder is legit, we should be seriously worried. Scary!
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So much for security cameras, lol.

If that key coder is legit, we should be seriously worried. Scary!
For 8,000 euros it better be legit! They have even cheaper ones for 4-500$. That's some scary technology, makes theft so simple.
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      07-04-2012, 07:55 PM   #4
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How does it work without the OBD port from the outside?
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      07-04-2012, 08:01 PM   #5
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How does it work without the OBD port from the outside?
  1. Break window
  2. Remove plastic OBD port guard
  3. Plug in + code new key
  4. Drive away with stolen car

From the looks if it, it runs off a battery current in the car. Not like the cigarette/12v outlet that requires the key be in the ignition & the auxiliary power be on
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      07-04-2012, 08:26 PM   #6
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This look like a great time to start investing into an OBD lock
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      07-04-2012, 09:12 PM   #7
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This look like a great time to start investing into an OBD lock
Seriously, forget about those locking gas caps. I'd rather have an empty tank then an empty parking spot
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      07-04-2012, 09:20 PM   #8
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This look like a great time to start investing into an OBD lock
Someone get us a group buy on ODB locks for our car...lol
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      07-04-2012, 09:30 PM   #9
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how does obd locks work against a thief? the ones I've seen are plastic that someone can just knock off.
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      07-04-2012, 09:44 PM   #10
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Pull the fuse for the OBD port.
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      07-04-2012, 11:41 PM   #11
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No fkn way!!
I really have a hard time believing this, in the video, they just pushed the car away I didnt see it start..
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      07-04-2012, 11:50 PM   #12
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      07-04-2012, 11:57 PM   #13
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Pull the fuse for the OBD port.
so it can be replaced in a matter of minutes.
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      07-05-2012, 12:01 AM   #14
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No fkn way!!
I really have a hard time believing this, in the video, they just pushed the car away I didnt see it start..
You can see it driving away in that latter half of the video, when the point of view changes. They pushed it first to reduce noise.

Old video but still scary.
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I wonder if there could be a setting on a piggyback (hint: vishnu) that would block certain commands that could be received/used to start the car.
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you guys can buy one here for $400....

http://www.xcardiag.com/wholesale/bm...l#na_write_rev
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has been used in Sweden already to get some BMWs... sucks.
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Pull the fuse for the OBD port.
so it can be replaced in a matter of minutes.
Lock your glovebox...
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Lock your glovebox...
How many seconds does it take to unlock it ? 2 or 3 ?

My car did suffer a theft attempt, but fortunately they weren't able to start it. I hope it's not so easy to do it ! I did have the OEM alarm.

I was thinking about interrupting the 2-3 most important wires to the OBD port via a hidden switch. Could be more effective than many other solutions.
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Wouldn't a piggyback on an active map serve the same purpose? You can't read off the OBD port with a JB4 or Procede installed thus this device would be rendered inoperable unless the thieves knew how these piggybacks worked.
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Wouldn't a piggyback on an active map serve the same purpose? You can't read off the OBD port with a JB4 or Procede installed thus this device would be rendered inoperable unless the thieves knew how these piggybacks worked.
The piggies "block" only certain CAN IDs and the device in the video mostly reads a memory region in the CAS module so it won't be affected by the piggies.

For some level of protection, go to your local stealership and see if they would agree to update your ECU and CAS firmwares. BMW apparently released a new version in 2011 that removes access to the memory used by the device to generate the new key via OBD. Not sure if you can still do it via the ICOM interface.

This won't protect you against the thief pulling the CAS module and reading the data directly from the chip but it takes longer.
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In UK forums someone suggested installing a switch by the OBD port that would disconnect one of the CAN lines.
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