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      02-23-2013, 11:31 AM   #287
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Fantastic, now that the first process is here how to update the flash, can we get something more comprehensive for this upgrade specifically from someone who has time and knowledge. I found this file how to update WinKFP zb files, it worked perfectly.

1.) To Update ZB files in WINKFP-
Here's sort of a guide for setting up WinKFP. I've based it on the E60 daten from ISTA/P 2.39. This
assumes you have installed INPA/Ediabas and WinKFP and they are running correctly. This was
done on a WinXP 32 bit system.

1. Unpack the V2.39 ISTA daten folders for SP-daten-E60 somewhere on your harddrive.

2. Open WinKFP, then choose "Import/Export" in the main menu, and pick "Import" then "PABD"

3. Browse to your unpacked daten folder and drill down to "sgdat". [base]\SP-daten-E60\sgdat\. Hit
CTRL-A to select all files, then click "Import"

4. Now select again "Import/Export" in the main menu, and pick "Import" then "P-SGBD" and, like
step 3, browse to your unpacked daten folder and drill down to "ecu". [base]\SP-daten-E60\ecu\. Hit
CTRL-A to select all files, then click "Import"

5. Now select again "Import/Export" in the main menu, and pick "Import" then "Assembly Line
Data"

6. Browse to your unpacked daten folder and drill down to "data". [base]\SP-daten-E60\data\ and
make sure "data" is highlighted and select "OK"

7. Depending on how big the data are, you may have to wait awhile. Go get a sandwich. Don't
abort. SP-daten-E89 took 10 minutes or more on my laptop and the program appeared frozen for
several minutes. Eventually, it should return control.

8. Open the regular file explorer and browse to your unpacked daten folder and drill down to
"gdaten". [base]\SP-daten-E60\data\gdaten\
Hit CTRL-A to select all files, then CTRL-C to copy all files to clipboard. Now browse to your
NFS folder (usually C:\EC-APPS\NFS\ or just C:\NFS\ depending on your installation) then browse
down to "data\gdaten" and hit CTRL-V to paste the copied files. If there are files already in this
directory, overwrite them with the files you copied.
Now exit WinKFP and, if desired, backup your NFS dir and EDIABAS\ECU dir so you don't have
to go through this again.

9. Run WinKFP. You may see a message like this:
Don't panic. For some reason there are some lines in some of the SGIDC.AS2 files that are too long
for WinKFP. SGIDC.AS2 is an ASCII text file and can be edited with notepad or another editor.
Just load it up (you may have to add a .txt extension and remove it after editing) find the line
specified in the box above and put a semi-colon in front of it ("comment" it out) or remove it
completely. I don't know if it is ever needed or if it should be truncated or what, but I've never run
across any bad behavior by removing it.
Do this again if there are other long lines in the file; you can easily determine this as most lines will
all be the same length and the problem lines will be twice as long or longer.
If all went well, you should have all the files needed to program ECUs with WinKFP.

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Awesome work guys! Reading all of this in a way makes me want an auto
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I've been re-reading this thread for like the 4th time since 4am. Cool stuff.
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This is F'n unreal guys. We have fixed the upgraded turbo shift issue. We have fixed the flatline after shift issue. We have quicker shifting. We can now down shift quicker without restrictions. Someone said it also effected traction control and made it more drivable without as much nanny intervention. We now have a fix for the late model car paddles. FTW This is some SICK $hit....

But, as wonderful as all of this is, I know a lot of you guys have ran out and bought cables, and that's great. But, if you're laptop is crap or if you screw up the software install and you try to flash your car you will be walking until you get a different laptop or fix your software. We will try to help you as much as possible if you break your car.

This truly is a game changer for the AT community. cn555ic and myself take great pride in the work we have done and thank those who posted the numbers that made this all possible.
This is awesome...I cant wait to get my car coded. Thank you all who worked so hard to make this happen!
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Fantastic, now that the first process is here how to update the flash, can we get something more comprehensive for this upgrade specifically from someone who has time and knowledge. I found this file how to update WinKFP zb files, it worked perfectly.

1.) To Update ZB files in WINKFP-
Here's sort of a guide for setting up WinKFP. I've based it on the E60 daten from ISTA/P 2.39. This
assumes you have installed INPA/Ediabas and WinKFP and they are running correctly. This was
done on a WinXP 32 bit system.

1. Unpack the V2.39 ISTA daten folders for SP-daten-E60 somewhere on your harddrive.

2. Open WinKFP, then choose "Import/Export" in the main menu, and pick "Import" then "PABD"

3. Browse to your unpacked daten folder and drill down to "sgdat". [base]\SP-daten-E60\sgdat\. Hit
CTRL-A to select all files, then click "Import"

4. Now select again "Import/Export" in the main menu, and pick "Import" then "P-SGBD" and, like
step 3, browse to your unpacked daten folder and drill down to "ecu". [base]\SP-daten-E60\ecu\. Hit
CTRL-A to select all files, then click "Import"

5. Now select again "Import/Export" in the main menu, and pick "Import" then "Assembly Line
Data"

6. Browse to your unpacked daten folder and drill down to "data". [base]\SP-daten-E60\data\ and
make sure "data" is highlighted and select "OK"

7. Depending on how big the data are, you may have to wait awhile. Go get a sandwich. Don't
abort. SP-daten-E89 took 10 minutes or more on my laptop and the program appeared frozen for
several minutes. Eventually, it should return control.

8. Open the regular file explorer and browse to your unpacked daten folder and drill down to
"gdaten". [base]\SP-daten-E60\data\gdaten\
Hit CTRL-A to select all files, then CTRL-C to copy all files to clipboard. Now browse to your
NFS folder (usually C:\EC-APPS\NFS\ or just C:\NFS\ depending on your installation) then browse
down to "data\gdaten" and hit CTRL-V to paste the copied files. If there are files already in this
directory, overwrite them with the files you copied.
Now exit WinKFP and, if desired, backup your NFS dir and EDIABAS\ECU dir so you don't have
to go through this again.

9. Run WinKFP. You may see a message like this:
Don't panic. For some reason there are some lines in some of the SGIDC.AS2 files that are too long
for WinKFP. SGIDC.AS2 is an ASCII text file and can be edited with notepad or another editor.
Just load it up (you may have to add a .txt extension and remove it after editing) find the line
specified in the box above and put a semi-colon in front of it ("comment" it out) or remove it
completely. I don't know if it is ever needed or if it should be truncated or what, but I've never run
across any bad behavior by removing it.
Do this again if there are other long lines in the file; you can easily determine this as most lines will
all be the same length and the problem lines will be twice as long or longer.
If all went well, you should have all the files needed to program ECUs with WinKFP.

you can cut that all down into 2 steps by using BMW Coding Tool

also, I believe with the newer winKFP (bmw standard tools 2.12), editing the as2 file is no longer required
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GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BREAKING news!!! I figured out the paddle issues...>ALL MODELS should work now and have functional paddle shifters!!!!!!!:h appyanim:
Great work!!!!! I can't wait for my Trans to get back to Cali!!!
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you can cut that all down into 2 steps by using BMW Coding Tool

also, I believe with the newer winKFP (bmw standard tools 2.12), editing the as2 file is no longer required
That'd be great, I'm new to this. And as for the as2 file, I had to edit mine or WinKFP wouldn't open.

Can you point me in the direction of the BMW Coding Tool, thanks.
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should be on the first page of results on google

edit: basically you open the program, set your spdaten source directory (the one you extracted it to), then click "update sp daten" then "update winkfp" and it does all the file transferring and importing automatically. it also edits the as2 file
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This is F'n unreal guys. We have fixed the upgraded turbo shift issue. We have fixed the flatline after shift issue. We have quicker shifting. We can now down shift quicker without restrictions. Someone said it also effected traction control and made it more drivable without as much nanny intervention. We now have a fix for the late model car paddles. FTW This is some SICK $hit....

But, as wonderful as all of this is, I know a lot of you guys have ran out and bought cables, and that's great. But, if you're laptop is crap or if you screw up the software install and you try to flash your car you will be walking until you get a different laptop or fix your software. We will try to help you as much as possible if you break your car.

This truly is a game changer for the AT community. cn555ic and myself take great pride in the work we have done and thank those who posted the numbers that made this all possible.
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GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BREAKING news!!! I figured out the paddle issues...>ALL MODELS should work now and have functional paddle shifters!!!!!!!:h appyanim:
Awesome. So what did you do differently or was this just a fluke on one car not working?
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Awesome. So what did you do differently or was this just a fluke on one car not working?
This was not isolated...If you code the newer model years the paddles will not work...After the flash you need to code it to work again..
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This was not isolated...If you code the newer model years the paddles will not work...After the flash you need to code it to work again..
So what was that?

edit: nevermind, saw your other post.

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yeah that has been tried and works much better than the old one. its OEM.
So this one could be used on a 2008 model (xi) as well? And what is the ZB number of the newer flash? If I do it will I then have to go back and redo the Alpina code?

Sorry for so many questions - just got the Alpina coded - seems to be OK but I'm not seeing the amazing changes that everyone else is reporting. Feeling some pretty weird 2-3 shifts. 3-4 feels very good. Looking into my logs now.
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Aw man no pre-3/07, you guys think it will ever be possible to flash pre-3/07? Any reason why specifically why it can not be flashed?
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So this one could be used on a 2008 model (xi) as well? And what is the ZB number of the newer flash? If I do it will I then have to go back and redo the Alpina code?

Sorry for so many questions - just got the Alpina coded - seems to be OK but I'm not seeing the amazing changes that everyone else is reporting. Feeling some pretty weird 2-3 shifts. 3-4 feels very good. Looking into my logs now.
my first agressive 2-3 threw a limp mode. could just be adaptations.

your expectations may just be too high. it's no DCT, but it's definitively an improvement over stock, and it certainly is a big deal.

edit: i haven't had a chance to test DTC changes yet, but i see all the alpina b3s cars sliding and drifting around in the youtube videos with their open diff, so who knows...
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Fantastic, now that the first process is here how to update the flash, can we get something more comprehensive for this upgrade specifically from someone who has time and knowledge. I found this file how to update WinKFP zb files, it worked perfectly.

1.) To Update ZB files in WINKFP-
Here's sort of a guide for setting up WinKFP. I've based it on the E60 daten from ISTA/P 2.39. This
assumes you have installed INPA/Ediabas and WinKFP and they are running correctly. This was
done on a WinXP 32 bit system.

1. Unpack the V2.39 ISTA daten folders for SP-daten-E60 somewhere on your harddrive.

2. Open WinKFP, then choose "Import/Export" in the main menu, and pick "Import" then "PABD"

3. Browse to your unpacked daten folder and drill down to "sgdat". [base]\SP-daten-E60\sgdat\. Hit
CTRL-A to select all files, then click "Import"

4. Now select again "Import/Export" in the main menu, and pick "Import" then "P-SGBD" and, like
step 3, browse to your unpacked daten folder and drill down to "ecu". [base]\SP-daten-E60\ecu\. Hit
CTRL-A to select all files, then click "Import"

5. Now select again "Import/Export" in the main menu, and pick "Import" then "Assembly Line
Data"

6. Browse to your unpacked daten folder and drill down to "data". [base]\SP-daten-E60\data\ and
make sure "data" is highlighted and select "OK"

7. Depending on how big the data are, you may have to wait awhile. Go get a sandwich. Don't
abort. SP-daten-E89 took 10 minutes or more on my laptop and the program appeared frozen for
several minutes. Eventually, it should return control.

8. Open the regular file explorer and browse to your unpacked daten folder and drill down to
"gdaten". [base]\SP-daten-E60\data\gdaten\
Hit CTRL-A to select all files, then CTRL-C to copy all files to clipboard. Now browse to your
NFS folder (usually C:\EC-APPS\NFS\ or just C:\NFS\ depending on your installation) then browse
down to "data\gdaten" and hit CTRL-V to paste the copied files. If there are files already in this
directory, overwrite them with the files you copied.
Now exit WinKFP and, if desired, backup your NFS dir and EDIABAS\ECU dir so you don't have
to go through this again.

9. Run WinKFP. You may see a message like this:
Don't panic. For some reason there are some lines in some of the SGIDC.AS2 files that are too long
for WinKFP. SGIDC.AS2 is an ASCII text file and can be edited with notepad or another editor.
Just load it up (you may have to add a .txt extension and remove it after editing) find the line
specified in the box above and put a semi-colon in front of it ("comment" it out) or remove it
completely. I don't know if it is ever needed or if it should be truncated or what, but I've never run
across any bad behavior by removing it.
Do this again if there are other long lines in the file; you can easily determine this as most lines will
all be the same length and the problem lines will be twice as long or longer.
If all went well, you should have all the files needed to program ECUs with WinKFP.
THIS IS HUGE!!! this needs to be a stickie with location,very detailed intructions, and as said a recovery for when, and it will things go wrong in the process.trust me on the last one!!! I was programming my c5(vet) and had been doing it for a while so somethings were second nature to me, but did'nt input a neccessary piece and wondered why i had an immediate cel.
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btw still looking for someone in va. that can do this..would give a try but the learning curve from programming older camaros and vets,fromthings going wrong is still very vivid in my mind.
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THIS IS HUGE!!! this needs to be a stickie with location,very detailed intructions, and as said a recovery for when, and it will things go wrong in the process.trust me on the last one!!! I was programming my c5(vet) and had been doing it for a while so somethings were second nature to me, but did'nt input a neccessary piece and wondered why i had an immediate cel.
This is extra work for the first part. Like tofu said, get BMW code tools, it works so much easier and updates winkfp with the click of a button.
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Since you guys can't seem to find things, I will make it easier for you...Here is the BMW coding tool..
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