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      05-27-2013, 10:48 AM   #1
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Software update E89X-13-03-504 and a scratch.. :-(

Went to the dealer with SIB 12-09-12 in hand for low speed intermittent loss of power. I have the PPK installed with previous integration version E89X-12-03-502. Left the dealer with a 1in long scratch on the door and a gutless E90. They upgraded the software to E89X-13-03-504. Final report shows ISTA/P version 49.4. The car seems to have lost a bit of power. Does anyone have any insite as to what this software version has done to the DME? I have an appointment at the dealer again to have the car door resprayed at an indepentant bodyshop. What can I mention to them about the car's lack of performance? Is it possible that the PPK did not make it back in the DME?
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      05-27-2013, 09:09 PM   #2
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What dealer in Chicago did you go to? Be nice to know if I have to bring mine in. Sorry I can't help you with software.
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      05-27-2013, 09:18 PM   #3
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all i can tell you is tell them the car does not feel the same and it seems like its losing power ever since the update. good luck
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Car lost adaptations. Drive it like you own it and wait for it to come back to life.
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      05-28-2013, 12:25 PM   #5
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Brought the car to Bill Jacobs in Naperville. They seem really nice there are were willing to take care of the scratch. I hope you guys are right about the software because the car feels gutless after the upadate. I keep asking for some kind of paperwork/printout showing that the PPK is actually installed in the car but they say it cant be done?
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Can't you have it reinstalled? They should have given you a red envelope with the details.
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      05-28-2013, 09:41 PM   #7
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How much are software updates
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      05-28-2013, 10:51 PM   #8
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Update was done under warrenty since I had a SIB.
As far as the PPK is concerned, they state your VIN is registered in the system and all updates are downloaded with PPK. however, everytime I ask for a printout they say their system cant print out anything but a final report. The report has no mention of PPK programming.
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      05-28-2013, 10:54 PM   #9
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Borrow a boost gauge. The stock boost is about 8-9 psi and PPK should be higher.
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      05-28-2013, 11:09 PM   #10
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Does anyone know if the PPK option is reflected in the VO? If so, what is the option code? And how do you read the firmware version on the DME? I assume the PPK has its own firmware versions.
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      05-31-2013, 11:52 PM   #11
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Went to the dealer with SIB 12-09-12 in hand for low speed intermittent loss of power. I have the PPK installed with previous integration version E89X-12-03-502. Left the dealer with a 1in long scratch on the door and a gutless E90. They upgraded the software to E89X-13-03-504. Final report shows ISTA/P version 49.4. The car seems to have lost a bit of power. Does anyone have any insite as to what this software version has done to the DME? I have an appointment at the dealer again to have the car door resprayed at an indepentant bodyshop. What can I mention to them about the car's lack of performance? Is it possible that the PPK did not make it back in the DME?
Hey, sorry for the but our admins won't give me PM back so here I am. The guy who ended up getting the Sport flash liked it, but ultimately was back in a few weeks to get the Alpina flash again. So do you're self a favor and just get the Alpina flash. Let me know if you need help.
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      06-01-2013, 03:04 PM   #12
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Hi Wedge1967,
Do you have a public email address so we can discuss further?
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Hi Wedge1967,
Do you have a public email address so we can discuss further?
You can text me at 503-679-3538... If you have a newer car with MSD81 you should be on assembly number 7626438 for the PPK. You should be able to read the UIF history. I had a dealership tell me they needed to flash my MSD80 as part of their diagnostic steps only to find out they didn't actually do the flash, but nicely wiped out some of my custom coding for comfort access. Wasn't an issue. Only takes me a few minutes to go back and recode the modules.

As for the transmission, 7615835 is the assembly number for the Alpina flash on module GKE215.

I actually had the base PROcede flash on my car and it was causing low boost codes after I had the turbos replace. I didn't put the PROcede back in because I'm doing some flash testing so I ended up just flashing my MSD80 back to stock myself. Funny part is the flash only takes a few minutes and it fixed the low boost issue, but at the dealership they say it takes more than an hour. WTF? I also have an MSD81 sitting on the shelf waiting for swap out as I plan on testing both MSD80 and MSD81 Alpina DME assembly numbers to see which one works well with our AT 335's... So move over PPK lovers, Alpina flash should blow your socks off performance wise.
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      06-01-2013, 06:29 PM   #14
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See now I am really confused.. I just pulled my info below?
ZB number for the DME/DDE
12 DME/DDE OKAY 8615786 MYVIN# 24.05.2013

But you said I should be at 7626438 ??? I cant find the zb in WinKFP? Any thoughts? What am I running? Is it a PPK flash cus I have my doubts that the dealer did it right??
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      06-01-2013, 06:33 PM   #15
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Date: 01.06.2013 09:14:22
Model: E89X
Scope: all control module
JobStatus: OKAY
Quantity: 27-----------------------------------------------------------------ADR Gen. name JobStatus
50 SINE ERROR_ECU_SUBFUNCTION_NOT_SUPPORTED__INVALID_FORMA T-----------------------------------------------------------------ADR Gen. name JobStatus ZB No. VIN No. Date
00 JBBF OKAY 9298946 MYVIN# 24.05.2013
01 MRS OKAY 9184433 07.03.2011
12 DME/DDE OKAY 8615786 MYVIN# 24.05.2013
17 EKP OKAY 7276046 0000000 01.03.2011
18 EGS OKAY 7624276 MYVIN# 09.03.2011
19 VGSG OKAY 7607980 04.01.2010
20 RDC OKAY 6793122 15.02.2010
27 PGS OKAY 9134708 0000000 06.06.2006
29 DSC OKAY 6780162 0000000 01.07.2009
36 TEL/MULF OKAY 9257165 28.02.2011
37 AMP OKAY 9218086 21.02.2011
40 CAS OKAY 9287534 MYVIN# 24.05.2013
41 DWA OKAY 9244134 17.06.2010
56 FZD OKAY 9225464 0000000 10.01.2008
60 KOMBI OKAY 9242370 MYVIN# 20.02.2011
61 FBI OKAY 9257168 MYVIN# 28.02.2011
62 MOSTGW OKAY 9284327 MYVIN# 20.04.2012
63 MASK/CCC OKAY 9283420 MYVIN# 20.04.2012
64 PDC OKAY 9252639 01.03.2011
67 ZBE OKAY 9249439 0000000 10.11.2011
6D FAS OKAY 9264974 MYVIN# 24.05.2013
72 FRM OKAY 9308370 MYVIN# 24.05.2013
73 CID OKAY 9211969 25.02.2011
78 KLIMA OKAY 9292262 MYVIN# 24.05.2013
92 VIRTSG92 OKAY 9180490 0000000 25.02.2011
A0 CCC OKAY 9284329 MYVIN# 20.04.2012 ================================================== ==
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Brought the car to Bill Jacobs in Naperville. They seem really nice there are were willing to take care of the scratch. I hope you guys are right about the software because the car feels gutless after the upadate. I keep asking for some kind of paperwork/printout showing that the PPK is actually installed in the car but they say it cant be done?
You should have gotten a service receipt with the PPK info an installation details for your car (VIN) also you should have three stickers under the hood. One at the underside if the hood, one BMW PPK plate and stickers under your engine cover. Not to mention your Red envelope with documentation of your utilize FSC code.

It should also be register with your dealer under service history
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      06-01-2013, 11:46 PM   #17
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You can text me at 503-679-3538... If you have a newer car with MSD81 you should be on assembly number 7626438 for the PPK. You should be able to read the UIF history. I had a dealership tell me they needed to flash my MSD80 as part of their diagnostic steps only to find out they didn't actually do the flash, but nicely wiped out some of my custom coding for comfort access. Wasn't an issue. Only takes me a few minutes to go back and recode the modules.

As for the transmission, 7615835 is the assembly number for the Alpina flash on module GKE215.

I actually had the base PROcede flash on my car and it was causing low boost codes after I had the turbos replace. I didn't put the PROcede back in because I'm doing some flash testing so I ended up just flashing my MSD80 back to stock myself. Funny part is the flash only takes a few minutes and it fixed the low boost issue, but at the dealership they say it takes more than an hour. WTF? I also have an MSD81 sitting on the shelf waiting for swap out as I plan on testing both MSD80 and MSD81 Alpina DME assembly numbers to see which one works well with our AT 335's... So move over PPK lovers, Alpina flash should blow your socks off performance wise.
PPK + Alpina Flash ... Both are not the same and Alpina focuses on the TCU or are you referring to full Alpina flash of the ECU?
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OP, any updates? Does the car still feel gutless or did the adaptions kick in? Did you go back to the dealer?
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