(ISSUE RESOLVED) Just got Scammed - Page 4 - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

Donkey Brolic · 01-25-2013, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Delta0311

I watched the main pic on my phone before now I can see it clearly on my PC. This IS NOT A PE.
1. The identification plate located near the tips is not there.
2. On a PE exhaust the pipe connecting out is on the OPPOSITE side of the tips. In the pic the pipe is on the same side.
3. The tips in the pic are NOT fully chromed. PE tips are chrome from front to end.

I'm not going to get into the debate if "bait and switch" was used in this deal but I will clear up the fact that the exhaust depicted in the pics is not a PE.

Seller please post the pics you sent to the OP. This way we can settle this.

I agree with you. It doesn't seem to be a PE in the pics that have been posted. Seller already said he didn't have any pics of the exhaust and that he skyped or facetimed a video or whatever.

R.G. · 01-25-2013, 12:05 AM

Sent emails can easily be retrieved. Texted photos, Pmd photos, nothing?
Who Skypes to show someone a sale item? You're telling me no pictures were exchanged
Wtf? I've never heard of scenario like that.

Donkey Brolic · 01-25-2013, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by R.G.

Sent emails can easily be retrieved. Texted photos, Pmd photos, nothing?
Who Skypes to show someone a sale item? You're telling me no pictures were exchanged
Wtf? I've never heard of scenario like that.

Thats one thing the seller and buyer both agree on. No pictures were sent. Sounds like a problem waiting to happen.

korr · 01-25-2013, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Donkey Brolic

Although I did just make this profile as I just bought my car, thats not true, Ive made other posts.

I took a passing interest in this thread when I saw the bit about performance exhausts as I am getting my car track ready. I also was interested as I have a lot of experience selling.

I guess that when I start making good points you feel the need to discredit me? I'll shutup. My point has been made. I wouldn't want to be the next outcast/victim in this community.

So whats your real account name? seems like u made this account the day OP made this thread, and u come in here just to bust OP's balls, and siding more with the seller, no? Yea yea i see you made couple bs posts, so what? Prove me wrong, lets see you post a pic of your car.

R.G. · 01-25-2013, 12:23 AM

I agree super suspect

I think the kid got scammed. But what do I know

E90 just learn from it man.

Not looking like your going to get the dough back
400 dollar chrome tips. Rock the hell out of them

Donkey Brolic · 01-25-2013, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by korr

So whats your real account name? seems like u made this account the day OP made this thread, and u come in here just to bust OP's balls, and siding more with the seller, no? Yea yea i see you made couple bs posts, so what? Prove me wrong, lets see you post a pic of your car.

really?

heres a dealer pic. as i said in other posts I just bought it. by the way, I will be parting out lots of things on the car to lighten it up. If anyone is interested in parts let me know and Ill tell you if im taking it off the car in the near future.

Hisam135i · 01-25-2013, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by E90bedi

almost $400. for some people its not that much but im just a college kid. on a budget so for me its a lot.

im in college as well. you should have researched the price a PE is normal sold for. That is way cheap for a PE, if it sounds to good to be true it probably is

sorry op

E90bedi · 01-25-2013, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Donkey Brolic

Thats one thing the seller and buyer both agree on. No pictures were sent. Sounds like a problem waiting to happen.

yea and he says that he never took pictures of it. which i personally think is complete bs. whenever i get something new im excited about it and take pictures right away lol. but thats just me i guess.

E90bedi · 01-25-2013, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by R.G.

I agree super suspect

I think the kid got scammed. But what do I know

E90 just learn from it man.

Not looking like your going to get the dough back
400 dollar chrome tips. Rock the hell out of them

haha i guess so. another way too look at it. thanks for ur input tho

E90bedi · 01-25-2013, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hisam135i

im in college as well. you should have researched the price a PE is normal sold for. That is way cheap for a PE, if it sounds to good to be true it probably is

sorry op

yeah guess i was stupid and trusted him because he was a forum member. my stupidity

E90bedi · 01-25-2013, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by e92oholic

Why doesn't the seller post a pic of the exhaust and prove to us he sent you a PE? Or a pic of his car with it on it. Hmmmmmm

+1

korr · 01-25-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Donkey Brolic

really?

heres a dealer pic. as i said in other posts I just bought it. by the way, I will be parting out lots of things on the car to lighten it up. If anyone is interested in parts let me know and Ill tell you if im taking it off the car in the near future.

YES really!

Dealer pIC? sorry your apparent dealer pic is not showing.... and please do let us know, i want to see the parts that you're going to part out in the near future.

edrive90 · 01-25-2013, 10:18 AM

I'm not overly fond of getting involved in transaction disputes, but this is serious. I personally value my online identity and would not want to have it slandered. The OP was looking for a performance exhaust and Incantana responded on Jan 2nd. that he had one for sale at a ridiculously low price. The OP bought it. When others questioned Incantana why he practically gave away a PE, Incantana claimed he didn't know what it was worth.

I went back over Incantana's posts (all 500 of them) and there is an obvious progression of buying/selling parts for modifications. There is nothing however about a performance exhaust. None of the inquiries or discussions that preceded all his modifications. The performance exhaust does not show up on any of several lists of all his modifications. All photos of the rear of the car, however, have been deleted.

Incantana posted inquiries about new pipe tips on Jan. 6, and then on Jan. 13 he posted that he had performed a muffler delete.

This car was previously owned by member MMMCookieS355 - hopefully he can chime in here on whether the previous muffler setup had welded tips.

Incantana - can you explain? Maybe you simply made a mistake and wish to make amends to the OP?

korr · 01-25-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by E90bedi

yeah guess i was stupid and trusted him because he was a forum member. my stupidity

dont blame yourself, shit happens, you thought it was a great deal, and you jumped on it, its normal. Now you just have more experience dealing with your future purchases on the forum.

Hierlevelz · 01-25-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by edrive90

I'm not overly fond of getting involved in transaction disputes, but this is serious. I personally value my online identity and would not want to have it slandered. The OP was looking for a performance exhaust and Incantana responded on Jan 2nd. that he had one for sale at a ridiculously low price. The OP bought it. When others questioned Incantana why he practically gave away a PE, Incantana claimed he didn't know what it was worth.

I went back over Incantana's posts (all 500 of them) and there is an obvious progression of buying/selling parts for modifications. There is nothing however about a performance exhaust. None of the inquiries or discussions that preceded all his modifications. The performance exhaust does not show up on any of several lists of all his modifications. All photos of the rear of the car, however, have been

Incantana posted inquiries about new pipe tips on Jan. 6, and then on Jan. 13 he posted that he had performed a muffler delete.

This car was previously owned by member MMMCookieS355 - hopefully he can chime in here on whether the previous muffler setup had welded tips.

Incantana - can you explain? Maybe you simply made a mistake and wish to make amends to the OP?

The plot thickens.

edrive90 · 01-25-2013, 10:47 AM

Incantana - seriously, we all make mistakes. If that's the case, get in touch with the OP and settle it. Once you make good on it no one will hold it against you.

Delta0311 · 01-25-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by edrive90

Incantana - seriously, we all make mistakes. If that's the case, get in touch with the OP and settle it. Once you make good on it no one will hold it against you.

This is a hard mistake to make. The sound difference alone between the two is like night and day.

R.G. · 01-25-2013, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by edrive90

I'm not overly fond of getting involved in transaction disputes, but this is serious. I personally value my online identity and would not want to have it slandered. The OP was looking for a performance exhaust and Incantana responded on Jan 2nd. that he had one for sale at a ridiculously low price. The OP bought it. When others questioned Incantana why he practically gave away a PE, Incantana claimed he didn't know what it was worth.

I went back over Incantana's posts (all 500 of them) and there is an obvious progression of buying/selling parts for modifications. There is nothing however about a performance exhaust. None of the inquiries or discussions that preceded all his modifications. The performance exhaust does not show up on any of several lists of all his modifications. All photos of the rear of the car, however, have been deleted.

Incantana posted inquiries about new pipe tips on Jan. 6, and then on Jan. 13 he posted that he had performed a muffler delete.

This car was previously owned by member MMMCookieS355 - hopefully he can chime in here on whether the previous muffler setup had welded tips.

Incantana - can you explain? Maybe you simply made a mistake and wish to make amends to the OP?

My attorney would have charged me more than the whole dispute amount for a review like that

Thorough job edrive

Refreshing to know people on this forum got each others back

stimpy · 01-25-2013, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edrive90

I'm not overly fond of getting involved in transaction disputes, but this is serious. I personally value my online identity and would not want to have it slandered. The OP was looking for a performance exhaust and Incantana responded on Jan 2nd. that he had one for sale at a ridiculously low price. The OP bought it. When others questioned Incantana why he practically gave away a PE, Incantana claimed he didn't know what it was worth.

I went back over Incantana's posts (all 500 of them) and there is an obvious progression of buying/selling parts for modifications. There is nothing however about a performance exhaust. None of the inquiries or discussions that preceded all his modifications. The performance exhaust does not show up on any of several lists of all his modifications. All photos of the rear of the car, however, have been deleted.

Incantana posted inquiries about new pipe tips on Jan. 6, and then on Jan. 13 he posted that he had performed a muffler delete.

This car was previously owned by member MMMCookieS355 - hopefully he can chime in here on whether the previous muffler setup had welded tips.

Incantana - can you explain? Maybe you simply made a mistake and wish to make amends to the OP?

Props

E90bedi · 01-25-2013, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edrive90

I'm not overly fond of getting involved in transaction disputes, but this is serious. I personally value my online identity and would not want to have it slandered. The OP was looking for a performance exhaust and Incantana responded on Jan 2nd. that he had one for sale at a ridiculously low price. The OP bought it. When others questioned Incantana why he practically gave away a PE, Incantana claimed he didn't know what it was worth.

I went back over Incantana's posts (all 500 of them) and there is an obvious progression of buying/selling parts for modifications. There is nothing however about a performance exhaust. None of the inquiries or discussions that preceded all his modifications. The performance exhaust does not show up on any of several lists of all his modifications. All photos of the rear of the car, however, have been deleted.

Incantana posted inquiries about new pipe tips on Jan. 6, and then on Jan. 13 he posted that he had performed a muffler delete.

This car was previously owned by member MMMCookieS355 - hopefully he can chime in here on whether the previous muffler setup had welded tips.

Incantana - can you explain? Maybe you simply made a mistake and wish to make amends to the OP?

damn edrive thank you. i owe you for this one.

E90bedi · 01-25-2013, 12:11 PM

notice how incantana stopped replying...

edrive90 · 01-25-2013, 12:15 PM

Here is a photo of the car before Incantana purchased it, with chrome pipe tips.

Incantana, maybe you thought it was a performance exhaust because of the chrome pipe tips, and then didn't want to admit your mistake? I understand, it happens. Just come clean and make the OP whole again and he'll chalk it up to misunderstanding and clear your good name.

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01-25-2013, 12:23 AM	#71
R.G. Second Lieutenant Drives: 2010 335i Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Right here Posts: 271 iTrader: (4)	I agree super suspect I think the kid got scammed. But what do I know E90 just learn from it man. Not looking like your going to get the dough back 400 dollar chrome tips. Rock the hell out of them __________________ Cobb // FSR Pro tuned // Dinan FFE // Dinan Intercooler // Dinan CAI // Dinan Strut Tower // Dinan camber plates // Matt Schnell Catless // Vibrant race mid cats // Alpina B3 Trans flash // Misc coding // Vorsteiner hood // Vorsteiner front lip // M3 Steering wheel // 20" IC-M7s

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01-25-2013, 10:18 AM	#79
edrive90 Scare 'em straight Drives: 2007 335i E90 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: maryland Posts: 165 iTrader: (0)	I'm not overly fond of getting involved in transaction disputes, but this is serious. I personally value my online identity and would not want to have it slandered. The OP was looking for a performance exhaust and Incantana responded on Jan 2nd. that he had one for sale at a ridiculously low price. The OP bought it. When others questioned Incantana why he practically gave away a PE, Incantana claimed he didn't know what it was worth. I went back over Incantana's posts (all 500 of them) and there is an obvious progression of buying/selling parts for modifications. There is nothing however about a performance exhaust. None of the inquiries or discussions that preceded all his modifications. The performance exhaust does not show up on any of several lists of all his modifications. All photos of the rear of the car, however, have been deleted. Incantana posted inquiries about new pipe tips on Jan. 6, and then on Jan. 13 he posted that he had performed a muffler delete. This car was previously owned by member MMMCookieS355 - hopefully he can chime in here on whether the previous muffler setup had welded tips. Incantana - can you explain? Maybe you simply made a mistake and wish to make amends to the OP?

01-25-2013, 10:47 AM	#82
edrive90 Scare 'em straight Drives: 2007 335i E90 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: maryland Posts: 165 iTrader: (0)	Incantana - seriously, we all make mistakes. If that's the case, get in touch with the OP and settle it. Once you make good on it no one will hold it against you.

01-25-2013, 12:11 PM	#87
E90bedi Second Lieutenant Drives: E90 BMW 328i xDrive 2009 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Nj Posts: 241 iTrader: (1)	notice how incantana stopped replying...

01-25-2013, 12:15 PM	#88
edrive90 Scare 'em straight Drives: 2007 335i E90 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: maryland Posts: 165 iTrader: (0)	Here is a photo of the car before Incantana purchased it, with chrome pipe tips. Incantana, maybe you thought it was a performance exhaust because of the chrome pipe tips, and then didn't want to admit your mistake? I understand, it happens. Just come clean and make the OP whole again and he'll chalk it up to misunderstanding and clear your good name.