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      02-07-2013, 03:40 PM   #89
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Before someone chimes in about camber causing poor traction, you must realize the e9X platform, like most other BMW platforms, has negative camber gain when lowered in the rear. That means at drive height, (Preset 2) I have very little negative camber (-2.3* to be exact) where as I have close to -4* when I drop the rear air spring pressure.
I want to comment on this in particular. For those who are not aware, my LOCAL BMW DEALER, aligned my car. When I put my H&R race springs on my car, the dealer told me my camber was at -2.3/-2.5. This was regular SPRINGS. I had the dealer put both sides at -3. And they did this and kept everything within BMW FACTORY SPECS. So before anyone gets bent out of shape b/c of negative camber this statement is fully correct.
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      02-11-2013, 01:12 PM   #90
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M-Tech front bumper with an Arkym lip would be perfect for this car in my mind.

Can I contact you here via PM about an air setup for my E91 if I decide to air it?
Sure! Feel free to.
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I want to comment on this in particular. For those who are not aware, my LOCAL BMW DEALER, aligned my car. When I put my H&R race springs on my car, the dealer told me my camber was at -2.3/-2.5. This was regular SPRINGS. I had the dealer put both sides at -3. And they did this and kept everything within BMW FACTOR SPECS. So before anyone gets bent out of shape b/c of negative camber this statement is fully correct.
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Big thanks goes to Toyo for these R888s:


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Those tires are awesome I had a set for a bit
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that meat..
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Mtech front and rear are on the way! So excited!
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      02-13-2013, 03:08 PM   #96
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Those tires are awesome I had a set for a bit
I'm really interested to see how they stack up against the Super Sports I had on there before the cheapo Hankooks
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      02-13-2013, 03:19 PM   #97
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was really excited until i saw pics... congrats on totally fucking up a great car, dimwit.

"stance nation"? might as well be called "handles worth shit"
Haha not gonna lie but you sound like a ******.

OP good job with the car keep it up!
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I think that from the beginning people are forgetting that this is FULLY Adjustable air ride... Its not like the car is being driven that low at all times... I mean OP even took the time to describe all levels of height adjustment...

Car looks Great! Would love to see the finished product. Especially with those Toyos on the rears!
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I think that from the beginning people are forgetting that this is FULLY Adjustable air ride... Its not like the car is being driven that low at all times... I mean OP even took the time to describe all levels of height adjustment...

Car looks Great! Would love to see the finished product. Especially with those Toyos on the rears!
Perhaps if I post up a video of it on the road, peoples who can't read will get the idea
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Perhaps if I post up a video of it on the road, peoples who can't read will get the idea
Video would be awesome! LOL.
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this car is all smoke and mirrors
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This is a poser car. Why bother with all the serious track use add-ons like cage, seats, LSD, solid bushings, etc. and then wreck the handling with a gimmicky suspension and ridiculous tires? Not to mention the anvil of weight in the trunk. I drove an air ride car on the track once. It was a joke.
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Because it's his car? OP can put hello kitty vinyl all over it if he wants to, if people don't like it that's whatever, but to make it out like he's doing something "wrong" is lame.
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Please post a video of the car so we can see the different ride heights?

Have you tracked this car yet?
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Whenever I see slammed builds like this one all I can think of is how much I hate the local roads. Not even the ricers drop their cars in Jackson.
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I am interested in this suspension for the opposite reason. I dont want to lower my car, I want to raise it. Like the "four corner" suspension of the older Touareg or Cayenne. I have a "sport suspension" and I think an adjustable suspension would be better for snow and chains situations. If I could raise it on rough roads or for speed bumps that are too high, that would be useful.

But the car has a nice ride as it is. I find it hard to believe that this air suspension, used at a normal level, presumably the same as my sport suspension, would provide the same quality ride that the OEM suspension does.

But when my current suspension wears out, I will definately look into air.

Thanks for the post. We all can learn from your work, even if we dont use your work for "stance".
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I am interested in this suspension for the opposite reason. I dont want to lower my car, I want to raise it. Like the "four corner" suspension of the older Touareg or Cayenne. I have a "sport suspension" and I think an adjustable suspension would be better for snow and chains situations. If I could raise it on rough roads or for speed bumps that are too high, that would be useful.

But the car has a nice ride as it is. I find it hard to believe that this air suspension, used at a normal level, presumably the same as my sport suspension, would provide the same quality ride that the OEM suspension does.

But when my current suspension wears out, I will definately look into air.

Thanks for the post. We all can learn from your work, even if we dont use your work for "stance".
The beauty of this type of system is that they are based off of coilovers. Although the height is determined by the pressure in the airbag, it is also dependent on where the coilover perches are set. So Essentially you have a suspension with an adjustable spring rate as well as the ability to set the ride height indepently to an extent.

Example(round/vague numbers) Lets say you wanted a 3/4" gap between the fender and the tire and you wanted the suspension a little softer than normal. you can raise the perches and let air out of the spring. or if you want the same ride height and a stiffer spring rate, do the opposite. You can make the car handle as good or as bad as you want.
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The beauty of this type of system is that they are based off of coilovers. Although the height is determined by the pressure in the airbag, it is also dependent on where the coilover perches are set. So Essentially you have a suspension with an adjustable spring rate as well as the ability to set the ride height indepently to an extent.
I see, very cool. So the air adjustment has a set bandwidth/zone it occupies, but you can determine where the center of this zone is when it is installed by choosing the perch.
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Nice build Bro. Do your thang and don't worry about some of the BS statements on the board. Some people hate just to hate.
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Because it's his car? OP can put hello kitty vinyl all over it if he wants to, if people don't like it that's whatever, but to make it out like he's doing something "wrong" is lame.
Thanks for the support
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