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      01-21-2013, 04:54 AM   #1
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Is the switch from all-seasons to summer tires worth it?

I recently purchased some new wheels with Bridgestone Potenza RE960as Pole Position tires mounted with about 70-80% tread left. They are 245/35/19 up front and 275/30 in the rear and don't rub from my initial mounting.

I have dedicated winter wheels/tires so all-seasons seem pointless. The tires are already mounted, but will have to be unmounted to refinish the wheels so there's no extra cost there.

So is it worth it going to summer tires? I don't track but could see myself trying it out this year. I'm not an aggressive driver about 90% of the time.

Not sure how much I could sell the Potenzas for, possibly a trade would be the best option but then I'd likely have to deal with shipping.

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Hmm dedicated summer tires do usually have a stiffer side wall and are generally noiser too. They will definitely grip harder than most std all seasons. Those tires on there are pretty good summer tires so I'd try them out and see how you like them for a summer.
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Hmm dedicated summer tires do usually have a stiffer side wall and are generally noiser too. They will definitely grip harder than most std all seasons. Those tires on there are pretty good summer tires so I'd try them out and see how you like them for a summer.
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All season tires for summer aren't completely pointless. Some prefer the smoother, quieter ride and longer treadwear that most all season tires provide.

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      01-21-2013, 11:22 AM   #4
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I say drive on 'em until they wear out and then make this decision when you're shopping for new tires again.
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the difference in grip is breathtaking. the difference in treadwaer too.
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i use to run summer tires for years and got tired of replacing them every third summer due to softer compounds wearing out quicker. It was always the inside of the tread to since these cars are cambered for handling. Since i moved to the E90, i stuck with the all season conti pro contacts in a non-runflat and after driving them, i see no reason for me to get summer performance tires as i dont track the car and use it for daily commuting. Quiet ride and long treadlife, works for me.
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I recently purchased some new wheels with Bridgestone Potenza RE960as Pole Position tires mounted with about 70-80% tread left. They are 245/35/19 up front and 275/30 in the rear and don't rub from my initial mounting.

I have dedicated winter wheels/tires so all-seasons seem pointless. The tires are already mounted, but will have to be unmounted to refinish the wheels so there's no extra cost there.

So is it worth it going to summer tires? I don't track but could see myself trying it out this year. I'm not an aggressive driver about 90% of the time.

Not sure how much I could sell the Potenzas for, possibly a trade would be the best option but then I'd likely have to deal with shipping.

Opinions, recommendations?
It all depends if you are getting the value. The one thing that you would notice with summer tires in your case is increased steering feedback and breaking even when going slower. Based on your driving style I wouldn't do it. RE960 is fine. I would try summer tires after these are done.
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      01-22-2013, 02:27 AM   #8
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Thanks for the opinions guys.
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It all depends if you are getting the value. The one thing that you would notice with summer tires in your case is increased steering feedback and breaking even when going slower. Based on your driving style I wouldn't do it. RE960 is fine. I would try summer tires after these are done.
Would you change your opinion if I told you that my summer setup would only get about 5-6k miles a year max?
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Would you change your opinion if I told you that my summer setup would only get about 5-6k miles a year max?
Well, the only time you can really take advantage of summer tires is when you push the car on back roads or HPDE. They are more expensive and stiffer and you will definitely feel the difference.

The bottom line is the a/s tire is a "jack of all trades and a master of none". The winter and summer tires are masters.
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Well if you decide to go with a summer tire you can always run the michelin pss which have a tread wear of 300. You dont usually see max performance tires that have acceptable ride/ noise/ and grip with a 300 tread wear. The best part is michelin offers a 30000 mile warranty for square set up and 15000 miles if your running staggered.
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Well if you decide to go with a summer tire you can always run the michelin pss which have a tread wear of 300. You dont usually see max performance tires that have acceptable ride/ noise/ and grip with a 300 tread wear. The best part is michelin offers a 30000 mile warranty for square set up and 15000 miles if your running staggered.
Yeah however then I'd likely have to spend anywhere from $400-$600 on top of what I'd get for the Bridgestones to afford those.
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Sorry for hi-jacking, but what is everyone's opinion on mixing tires for fronts and rears? I was thinking about this setup when I go in for new tires in about 1000 more miles.
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Sorry for hi-jacking, but what is everyone's opinion on mixing tires for fronts and rears? I was thinking about this setup when I go in for new tires in about 1000 more miles.
Thinking about going summer and all-seasons?
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All season, I'm expecting to move up to Oak Harbor in Washington by November.
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Sorry for hi-jacking, but what is everyone's opinion on mixing tires for fronts and rears? I was thinking about this setup when I go in for new tires in about 1000 more miles.
No. mismatch is possible, but is often the cause of weird handling, noise, premature wear, etc. Just don't do it.
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