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      01-28-2013, 04:43 PM   #1
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HS2 - proposed plans

I've been looking at these plans that have come out for the West Mids to Leeds route. I'm a bit shocked to be honest. The proposed route is less than half a mile to where we live now and within about 500yds of a property we rent (in a neighbouring village) which was an intended retirement fund, maybe not now!

Anyone else have any concerns over it? It looks like it's going ahead but I suppose the plans are only proposed but they'll have spent a lot of money getting to this stage so can't see them changing much
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I wouldn't worry too much, it's not as though there is going to be shovels in the ground any time in the next ten years! Where I live now a bypass has been talked about, planned, approved, back to public consultation, appealed, re planned, consulted, approved again....etc etc.....and that is over 20 years and still no signs of a new road!
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I feel very sorry for anyone who is going to be affected by this, and I can't for the life of me work out why shaving minutes off the journey time between major cities is worth 29bn.

Luckily for me, it's gone the other side of Sheffield, so it won't personally affect me.

It's only an hour and a half to London from my local mainline station - this is a healthy enough time in my books.
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Personally I wouldn't worry about it, even if everything is signed off its predicted to take 20years!!! I doubt very much it will ever happen, just the way things work in the UK....In a way its hard to know if that is a good thing or not, other parts of the worlds have managed huge transformations in the last 20 years, in 10 years I've lived in the midlands the most exciting new thing to be built is a Johnlewis

When I left Shanghai in 1990 the tallest building on the "bay front" was built by the British/French from the colonial days (the building with the clock tower in the top picture), now its not even visible....clearly the progress in China comes at a cost, but 20 years(if it ever happens) to build a single railway line seems just a bit slow compared to what is going on in Asia as a whole.

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Wow. Glad we are not at that end of the development scale. That's scary.

I've not paid much attention to this HS2 stuff. Saw it on the news the other day though and it seemed a bit mental. Stations for cities 20 minutes outside the city negating any benefit of a high speed link.

As others have said, it won't happen any time soon if at all. Just look at the Edinburgh tram fiasco. Less complicated yet still a total disaster.
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That's unbelievable! You can only still see the two on the bottom left.

Like people have said, it'll probably never happen. I hope not for a mate's sake, it's about 50m from the front door of his farm house and runs straight through an awful lot of his land.
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Dubai 1990, 2005, now. I personally find the atmosphere for development/change in the up and coming countries to be quite addictive. Me and my wife are seriously thinking to emigrating to Asia in the next few years, cannot see how Europe can compete with the Asia in 30-40-50 years...have to take the 335 with me of course since local taxes on foreign cars are horrendous ..I doubt in 5 years time plans for HS2 would be any future along

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As others have said I wouldn't get unduly concerned. It took them 3 years just to widen a stretch of the A406 near me and change the traffic lights, every time I drove past there was never anyone working, just a sh*t load of traffic cones. That was just the building part, I don't even know how long it's been in planning.

Good for you in this case as you'll probably be dead by the time they eventually get around to it but bad from the UK's point of view IMO. Why do we take sooo long to do anything in this country? The rate of change in a lot of other countries is astonishing, I can barely recognise most places that I visit if I've not been for a year. Yet another area where the UK is way behind the so called developing countries.
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Hs2 route from the drawings looks as if it comes within about 150m of our house

I probably wont live here when its built but still it'd be crap if my parents retirement home was affected by the new route.
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An interesting bit that's emerged (don't know if it's actually true though) is that funding of this railway line is provided by UK taxpayers. Scottish taxpayers share of the total is about 3 billion and the new line stops 100 miles short of the Scottish border!?

Oh, that's right, the Scots are infamous money grabbers, aren't they?...
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An interesting bit that's emerged (don't know if it's actually true though) is that funding of this railway line is provided by UK taxpayers. Scottish taxpayers share of the total is about 3 billion and the new line stops 100 miles short of the Scottish border!?

Oh, that's right, the Scots are infamous money grabbers, aren't they?...
I would not worry about it. You Scots will have declared independence and have gone bankrupt by then. So you will not be paying.
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Which would mean that HS2 could be cancelled to pay for the Scottish bailout..
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The actual cost is thought to be more like 47billion. The 32billion the government quoted will be about as accurate as the Olympic budget.

I personally think there's better things we could be spending the money on.
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