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      03-01-2013, 05:34 PM   #45
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I like this thread since I am pondering which would be a good buy. Do any of these DPs come with their own new hardware to mount or do you have to use the existing bolts?

Hopefully my bolts are possible to take on and off for emissions.
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      03-01-2013, 06:57 PM   #46
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Lol E90company....I knew you'd get pooped on for that comment

In any case, absolutely nothing wrong with VRSF. 1st to the market with a reasonably priced DP option. I give them mad props for that. It's just piping after all.

If this new Cast option can stay within a reasonable range $400-$500 then I'm sure they kill the market.

BMS are another great option and fairly priced, but still SS like the old VRSF's.
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      03-01-2013, 07:07 PM   #47
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Trust me, BMS's quality far surpasses VRSF.
Says the JB4 fanboy... Do you have to make this statement in every DP thread?

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Please do tell, because VRSF pipe that I got a few days ago doesn't look like anything close to bad quality
Agree. At least 5-10 N54'ers local to me have the VRSF DP's and are all satisfied with them.
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      03-01-2013, 07:14 PM   #48
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BMS pipes are superb, VRSF is a good option as well. Tiago and Terry are as good as it gets in terms of support, they both stand behind their products 100%. If going VRSF i'd wait until their revised design comes out, it looks very solid.
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Ive had racelands now for a year. havent had any problems.
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I like this thread since I am pondering which would be a good buy. Do any of these DPs come with their own new hardware to mount or do you have to use the existing bolts?

Hopefully my bolts are possible to take on and off for emissions.
We do include a new set of hardware (grade 12) and gaskets with every one of our downpipes.

For all those who are waiting for our new pipes, I'll have a few pictures on Monday of the new improvements we've made.

Thank you everyone for the kind words and for giving us the opportunity to be a part of your build, it truly is greatly appreciated.
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      03-01-2013, 09:37 PM   #52
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BMS DPs have been great for me. Superb cost for that quality and fitment. And Terry support is amazing.
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BMS DPs have been great for me. Superb cost for that quality and fitment. And Terry support is amazing.
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Out of all the overseas downpipes the BMS ones are probably the best. I got a large order in recently and they have been selling very well and the quality is definitely very good.

No fitment issues either and come with gaskets and hardware.

Great alternative to ar design pipes if you are on a budget.

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Says the JB4 fanboy... Do you have to make this statement in every DP thread?



Agree. At least 5-10 N54'ers local to me have the VRSF DP's and are all satisfied with them.
Ok? Says the VRSF warrior? Little would you know I have tried all three major tunes? Those rusty pipes in your review thread look great. Keep talking.
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Ok? Says the VRSF warrior? Little would you know I have tried all three major tunes? Those rusty pipes in your review thread look great. Keep talking.
Just curious, why do you insist on knocking vrsf in nearly every dp thread that comes up...if you dont like them fine, keep quiet and move on
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Just curious, why do you insist on knocking vrsf in nearly every dp thread that comes up...if you dont like them fine, keep quiet and move on
I'm curious why you would even ask this question, in an opinionated thread like this? You make no sense, show me where I knocked VRSF in this thread. Quote it too. BMS's quality is better than VRSF.

Please move on if you have nothing to contribute, or have no personal experience with any of the pipes we are talking about. Thank you........
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I'm curious why you would even ask this question, in an opinionated thread like this? You make no sense, show me where I knocked VRSF in this thread. Quote it too. BMS's quality is better than VRSF.

Please move on if you have nothing to contribute, or have no personal experience with any of the pipes we are talking about. Thank you........
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Those rusty pipes in your review thread look great. Keep talking.
So ill ask again, why do you knock them in every dp thread that comes up?? Sure its your opinion but my question is what brings you to that opinion. That would be a ton more valuable to anyone interested in purchasing dp's rather than your ignorant comments.
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Ok, ill quote you again since you cant read...



So ill ask again, why do you knock them in every dp thread that comes up?? Sure its your opinion but my question is what brings you to that opinion. That would be a ton more valuable to anyone interested in purchasing dp's rather than your ignorant comments.
Surely if you say I knock them in every thread you would know all of this stuff. I guess you can't read.
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I dont even want to read this thread))))

I'll just say that dont cheap out of parts...

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I say get any DPs but Racelands. They look awful. Just ordered a set of AR's last night!
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Looking for some help on DP's not willing to spend too much I was looking into some Racelands ones. Dont want to mess with gaskets, clamps etc. Want something thats a easy bolt on to the stock exhaust. Thanks
My suggestion would be to purchase whatever dp's you feel are the best bang for the buck. Use the search function on the forums to read reviews on each company. Id personally stay away from ebay brands and i would purchase from a forum vendor like BMS or VRSF. You can't go wrong with either company in regards to quality, value, and customer service.
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We do include a new set of hardware (grade 12) and gaskets with every one of our downpipes.

For all those who are waiting for our new pipes, I'll have a few pictures on Monday of the new improvements we've made.

Thank you everyone for the kind words and for giving us the opportunity to be a part of your build, it truly is greatly appreciated.
Will you be releasing the xi cast DP's at the same time? if not what does the time line on those look like? waiting for this to order the FMIC and DP combo
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I have racelands and I am very happy with them.
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No dog in this fight, have no DP's & will not be buying DP's because of State Inspection issues.

I would be concerned by stainless steel that rusts. I have a 98 truck with stainless steel pipes & after 14 years they are still not rusted. If they not stainless steel I would pass them by & pay a bit more to get SS.
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BMS pipes are superb, VRSF is a good option as well. Tiago and Terry are as good as it gets in terms of support, they both stand behind their products 100%. If going VRSF i'd wait until their revised design comes out, it looks very solid.
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You cant go wrong with either option... I was torn between the two and only went with BMS because i got a sweet deal on them when purchasing JB4 and AFE DCI...

For what its worth... I'm Happy!!
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if you are in the market, I have some used BMS downpipes for sale. They are great quality, and you do notice the difference with them on the car.

Full thread is here: http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18826
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