E90Post
 


GTB Performance
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > NA Engine (non-turbo) / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > Yes or no, chance to get a slightly used Arma SC kit...



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-11-2013, 02:00 PM   #1
uweric5985
Private First Class
 
uweric5985's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW E90 LCI 323i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Macau, China

Posts: 137
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2009 BMW 323i  [4.75]
Yes or no, chance to get a slightly used Arma SC kit...

The owner is selling an Arma Super Charge kit version 1 for half price (around USD$5600) installed.

The kit comes off from a E90 LCI 323i 2.5L 6AT which is exactly the same as my car.

Performance mods on the car:

Arma Super Charge kit with Arma ECU and Header
Okada Inigition Coil
Sprint booster
SuperSprint Quad exhaust

Performance mods on MY car:
AA stage-2 tune
K&N air filter with Euro box
SuperSprint Quad exhaust

Anyway, testing the car will be a good forecast on how the kit will perform on my car.

The kit has been installed for 6 months but only run for less than 1200km.

Review:

Sound: I do care about the noise that the sc kit will make simply because I don't want to have headache hearing some strange sound under the hood while I'm on road trip. To my surprise, the charger is quiet when idle and below 2,500 rpm. There is a "vbeep...." sound after 2,500 rpm and that sound gets louder together with the exhaust sound when rpm climbs. I'm ok with it.

Condition of the kit: It's like new, can tell from the picture. No leak or damage or dent, no weird sound, and actually all components are clean. I can tell the car is seldom driven.

Performance: The car pull noticeably harder after 3,000 rpm compare with my 323i. (Please note that my 323i is not stock and is greatly improved by the lovely AA tune ) Extra torque is there but not a +100hp setup, more like a +50hp or so.

I tried to do a 0-100km run but the car failed when shifting into 3rd gear!
The transmission gets into N gear when shifting from 2nd to 3rd gear and the rpm climbs like crazy because I'm still WOT. The car cut throttle like a MT car and giving some back fire pop sound from the exhaust, I'm scared. Everything gets back to normal when I release the throttle.
Similar thing happens when I down shift from 3rd gear to 2nd gear. It seems to me that the TCU has failed to deny a downshift signal when rpm will exceed the limit if shift to lower gear. There is no error light ever pops up in the whole situation.

Owner claims that the transmission problem happen before installing the SC kit and it's proven NOT related to the kit after ARMA sending some technicians to investigate.

Drive-ability: Em...the car is smooth on normal driving. However, once I get hard on the car, the transmission will start to fail. Why would I want to drive like normal when I choose to install an aftermarket SC kit on my car?

Maintenance: Oil change on every 4-5,000km; SC kit service on every 20,000km.

I know Arma has recently come up with a new version of SC kit;
I know Arma SC kit does not have good reputation in here;
I have read and watch all available reviews and videos.
I'm being unbiased and evaluate whether I should get the kit or not.
Price can go even lower as far as I know...

Get it or not if you were me.






__________________
Performance: K&N High Flow Air Filter | AA Tune Stage 2 | SuperSprint Quad Exhaust
Handling: KW V2 | AP Racing 5200 4 Pots Front Calipers with 330mm J-Hook Drilled Disc | Matt Black 19" Advan RZ-DF
Cosmetic: Gloss Black Roof | Gloss Black Front Grilles | M3 Style Trunk Spoiler | Performance Front | M-Tech Rear Bumper | M-Tech Steering Wheel
uweric5985 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2013, 02:50 PM   #2
benzo23
Colonel
 
benzo23's Avatar
 
Drives: 14 F30 AW MSport
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: FL

Posts: 2,886
iTrader: (1)

Ill make this simple, I wouldn't put that on my car if it were free.
benzo23 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2013, 03:08 PM   #3
Andrew@ActiveAutowerke
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
Andrew@ActiveAutowerke's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 435I M-sport
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Miami Fl

Posts: 3,354
iTrader: (5)

That blower is a joke. At least get the rotrex version.
Andrew@ActiveAutowerke is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2013, 03:17 PM   #4
Rival
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 95 z28
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: shytown

Posts: 430
iTrader: (0)

sounds cool, looks cool, but hell no. thats more problems than a lemon 335.

if you want more power at this point buy a NX wet kit and hit a 50 shot or sell and buy a 335.
__________________
2008 328i 6spd
1995 Z28 6spd - 377rwhp rip
Rival is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2013, 03:23 PM   #5
benzo23
Colonel
 
benzo23's Avatar
 
Drives: 14 F30 AW MSport
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: FL

Posts: 2,886
iTrader: (1)

Why does that car have 2 different set of rims, and missing half of the side skirt? but has a SC on it lol
benzo23 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2013, 04:15 PM   #6
ska///235i
***** noob
 
ska///235i's Avatar
 
Drives: M235i
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Boston

Posts: 8,749
iTrader: (31)

Garage List
2006 325xi  [0.00]
I wouldnt touch that arma shit with a 10 ft pole
__________________
" Hey, your m235i is not a true M car"..."No shit, its a M Performance doe"
ska///235i is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2013, 07:47 PM   #7
willsull80
Push the skinny pedal granny this is a DE!
 
Drives: 2009 328i Coupe Sport package
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Birmingham AL

Posts: 85
iTrader: (0)

I guess my point may be best said, My 328 was 32,000 for 36,000 I could have bought a 335 at that time.

the arma supercharger "2" is 7 grand plus 400 shipping and that isn't installed. even if its 5600 installed. I would buy a 335 mainly because for the same or less money you start out with the same hp or better, and you can go up from there into the 400+ range






Stay thirsty my friend....

Last edited by willsull80; 06-11-2013 at 08:10 PM.
willsull80 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2013, 09:50 PM   #8
andrey_gta
Colonel
 
andrey_gta's Avatar
 
Drives: 130i coupé ;)
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Bimmerpost

Posts: 2,916
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2008 BMW 128i  [0.00]
call Arma ask if they can sell you the rotorex blower update. This kit is at your risk, no one here will recommend it.
__________________
128i Sport 6MT converted to Euro 130i spec, tuned by evolve ~220 whp 207 wtq(ft-lb) SAE
In-progress: e46 m3 trans mnt, e36M lip Wishlist: m3 susp, n55 eng mnt, headers, LSD, finn dif e60


"The 1-series is the last car that BMW engineered before the Germans, as a car-making culture, fell out of love with driving." - R&T 2013 135is
andrey_gta is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      06-12-2013, 12:43 AM   #9
uweric5985
Private First Class
 
uweric5985's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW E90 LCI 323i
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Macau, China

Posts: 137
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2009 BMW 323i  [4.75]
Quote:
Originally Posted by benzo23 View Post
Why does that car have 2 different set of rims, and missing half of the side skirt? but has a SC on it lol
The rims cost over $12500 per set....
__________________
Performance: K&N High Flow Air Filter | AA Tune Stage 2 | SuperSprint Quad Exhaust
Handling: KW V2 | AP Racing 5200 4 Pots Front Calipers with 330mm J-Hook Drilled Disc | Matt Black 19" Advan RZ-DF
Cosmetic: Gloss Black Roof | Gloss Black Front Grilles | M3 Style Trunk Spoiler | Performance Front | M-Tech Rear Bumper | M-Tech Steering Wheel
uweric5985 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-12-2013, 01:30 AM   #10
kreuz
Private
 
Drives: 09 e90 328i LCI
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: NorCal

Posts: 52
iTrader: (0)

off topic but...where did you get that hood ?
kreuz is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-12-2013, 01:13 PM   #11
BoogeyMan'sBMW
Major
 
BoogeyMan'sBMW's Avatar
 
Drives: SLOW
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Queens NY

Posts: 1,290
iTrader: (3)

DONT DO IT

think of why he wants to sell it:

even though its new
at half price
BoogeyMan'sBMW is offline   Bangladesh
0
Reply With Quote
      06-12-2013, 01:28 PM   #12
andrey_gta
Colonel
 
andrey_gta's Avatar
 
Drives: 130i coupé ;)
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Bimmerpost

Posts: 2,916
iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2008 BMW 128i  [0.00]
Also, we recently talked about the Auto transmission not being able to handle the SC boost or tq and would slip. So maybe that is why the car with Arma has this issue.
The Arma technician in the failed Arma kit on e90 also placed blame on the user for using a different air filter ...
__________________
128i Sport 6MT converted to Euro 130i spec, tuned by evolve ~220 whp 207 wtq(ft-lb) SAE
In-progress: e46 m3 trans mnt, e36M lip Wishlist: m3 susp, n55 eng mnt, headers, LSD, finn dif e60


"The 1-series is the last car that BMW engineered before the Germans, as a car-making culture, fell out of love with driving." - R&T 2013 135is
andrey_gta is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
      06-12-2013, 02:31 PM   #13
Andrew@ActiveAutowerke
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
Andrew@ActiveAutowerke's Avatar
 
Drives: 2014 435I M-sport
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Miami Fl

Posts: 3,354
iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by andrey_gta View Post
Also, we recently talked about the Auto transmission not being able to handle the SC boost or tq and would slip. So maybe that is why the car with Arma has this issue.
The Arma technician in the failed Arma kit on e90 also placed blame on the user for using a different air filter ...
Ding Ding.. The Auto tranny is weak! I posted this in the other thread.
Andrew@ActiveAutowerke is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-12-2013, 06:10 PM   #14
Delta0311
Brigadier General
 
Delta0311's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 BMW 335xi E92
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: NJ

Posts: 3,554
iTrader: (1)

The ARMA supercharger, for when you absolutely, positively need to make the drivers death look like a suicide.
__________________
Space Gray 2011 335xi E92
Delta0311 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-12-2013, 06:24 PM   #15
Eagle1oh7
Captain
 
Eagle1oh7's Avatar
 
Drives: '11 328i Sedan
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Chula Vista CA

Posts: 668
iTrader: (0)

Seems like SC has been the talk of the town this entire month so far LOL!
__________________
DONE: Seibon CF Hood, M3 Rep, MSport rear w/Duke Dynamics CF Diffuser, Rieger Rep Skirts, aFe Stage 2 PRO-R Intake, Seibon CSL trunklid, Forgestar F14 18s w/Michelin PSS

FUTURE MODS: Eisenmann Full Cat-back Exhaust, OETuning ECU, MMW Headers, CF mirror caps, Bi-Xenon headlights, CF rooftop, CF lip
Eagle1oh7 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-13-2013, 02:06 AM   #16
manutdas11
EL JIMMY NEURON
 
manutdas11's Avatar
 
Drives: Jet Black E90
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: in the Napa Valley/SJ...

Posts: 1,203
iTrader: (0)

Get it!! Don't think twice about or you'll regret it!! Just do it like Nike.
__________________
2007 Jet Black E90 328i
Thread: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=825249
Instagram: manutd_as
manutdas11 is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-13-2013, 02:18 AM   #17
Ben0426
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: e92 325i /MB ML350
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sydney

Posts: 301
iTrader: (1)

keep away from ARMA, saw too many bull S**t on their "weibo''
Ben0426 is offline   Australia
0
Reply With Quote
      06-13-2013, 10:27 PM   #18
alexwhittemore
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Drives: 2009 Crimson 328i
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Los Angeles

Posts: 1,600
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by uweric5985 View Post
The rims cost over $12500 per set....
You've got $2-3k in body work, 13-14k in wheels, and still more in performance on a 323? And you haven't just kicked it up to a 335 yet?
__________________
alexwhittemore is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-14-2013, 06:14 AM   #19
driverman
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2008 E90 328i 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: El Dorado Hills, CA

Posts: 589
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by benzo23 View Post
Ill make this simple, I wouldn't put that on my car if it were free.
+10000000
driverman is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:22 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST