New updated injector? - BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum

vertigo44 · 02-10-2013, 12:21 AM

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Can anyone elaborate on the latest injector and what has been updated about it? It's also $100 more than the previous old part... 13537585261.

Pankakez & BMWs · 02-10-2013, 04:13 AM

Very interested in this as well.

caliguy562 · 02-10-2013, 04:30 AM

Sons of bitches. I just had all 6 replaced last week with 5261 version. Bump for more information on new version.

Autobahn335i · 02-10-2013, 04:54 AM

Hmm my shop just ordered a new injector for my car on Friday. I hope it's this new revision!

Autobahn335i · 02-10-2013, 12:53 PM

On another forum it's stated that this new version has enhanced internal filtering and special thermo compensating oil. Definitely an upgrade then! Too bad the price has also been revised!

Juiced46 · 02-10-2013, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

Hmm my shop just ordered a new injector for my car on Friday. I hope it's this new revision!

If they are installing only 1 injector it will be the older style 261 not the 079 part #.

The 079 is not compatible with the 261 per a recent DCS message. Also the 261s are being phased out so the only thing that will be availble soon are the 079s. That being said, if you need 1 079 you need to replace all 6 injectors since you cannot mix them.

Another note to mention. When you do get a new 079 injector and you check the injector itself it will say 261-11 it will not have the 079 part # on it FYI.

Like mentioned they "claim" its a better internal fitering and the thermo compenstating oil

Fully_Bolted · 02-10-2013, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juiced46

If they are installing only 1 injector it will be the older style 261 not the 079 part #.

The 079 is not compatible with the 261 per a recent DCS message. Also the 261s are being phased out so the only thing that will be availble soon are the 079s. That being said, if you need 1 079 you need to replace all 6 injectors since you cannot mix them.

Another note to mention. When you do get a new 079 injector and you check the injector itself it will say 261-11 it will not have the 079 part # on it FYI.

Like mentioned they "claim" its a better internal fitering and the thermo compenstating oil

Is there a software update that comes along with the these newest injectors? (Besides coding the calibration #s)

Autobahn335i · 02-10-2013, 01:27 PM

I'll ask the shop tomorrow. But the price is around 200 Eur whereas the old one was only 100.

How are they not compatible? Wouldn't they require a software update then?

I'm not really keen to shell out around over 1200 EUR just because BMW can't get stuff done right the first time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juiced46

If they are installing only 1 injector it will be the older style 261 not the 079 part #.

The 079 is not compatible with the 261 per a recent DCS message. Also the 261s are being phased out so the only thing that will be availble soon are the 079s. That being said, if you need 1 079 you need to replace all 6 injectors since you cannot mix them.

Another note to mention. When you do get a new 079 injector and you check the injector itself it will say 261-11 it will not have the 079 part # on it FYI.

Like mentioned they "claim" its a better internal fitering and the thermo compenstating oil

Juiced46 · 02-10-2013, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autobahn335i

I'll ask the shop tomorrow. But the price is around 200 Eur whereas the old one was only 100.

How are they not compatible? Wouldn't they require a software update then?

I'm not really keen to shell out around over 1200 EUR just because BMW can't get stuff done right the first time.

This is going by the DCS that announced the new injectors. It clearly states that you cannot mix and match the 2 different injectors. I have no answer to why though. No software update is needed. You calibrate them as normal.

BMWM.D. · 02-10-2013, 03:55 PM

I've installed a few sets of these new injectors. They are easily identified by their index number of "11". They are improved injectors that were mainly designed due to the problems BMW has been having with the N63 engines -- which seem to be more sensitive to injector tolerances. According to BMW, you can run either the new or old style in the N54, but you can't mix/match them on the same engine.

Maybe my source was incorrect, but I was told the old part number was currently on back-order and that the new number was the same price. I'm assuming the new, improved parts are going to be the only option as soon as everyone runs out of the older "261" part number.

Juiced46 · 02-10-2013, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWM.D.

I've installed a few sets of these new injectors. They are easily identified by their index number of "11". They are improved injectors that were mainly designed due to the problems BMW has been having with the N63 engines -- which seem to be more sensitive to injector tolerances. According to BMW, you can run either the new or old style in the N54, but you can't mix/match them on the same engine.

Maybe my source was incorrect, but I was told the old part number was currently on back-order and that the new number was the same price. I'm assuming the new, improved parts are going to be the only option as soon as everyone runs out of the older "261" part number.

Your source is correct. Same applied to my place. You cannot order the 261s. Basically if you have 261s in stock, they want the dealer to use those first. However they cannot be ordered. If you order a 261 the order gets cancelled and you get 079s. If its an N63 it MUST get 079s. If you are trying to install less then 6 injectors, it MUST get 6 new 079s, unless there are 261s available.

We have had many N54s in the shop in the past few weeks that needed 1 to 3 injectors. All of them had to get 6 079s because of zero availability on the 261s

Autobahn335i · 02-10-2013, 05:30 PM

Oh boy. My shop had to order the injector in Germany as they were out of stock at the local dealership. I've got a bad feeling about this...

And somehow my car does not qualify for the injector recall. FML

enrita · 02-10-2013, 06:25 PM

filter and thermo oil? sounds like a great upgrade for E85 use...

AWil335i · 02-10-2013, 06:38 PM

Just replaced an injector on Thursday - but it looks like Tischer sent me the "previous" version. I was worried that I had put a new one in and it may be incompatible - but the car feels fantastic.

marconi118 · 02-12-2013, 11:07 AM

I have 2 brand new 13537585261 - 8 for sale.

Bought them 2 years ago when they where quite expensive.
Selling them because I need one more, so have to change all 6 with the new type

I am based in Europe

psmitty95 · 02-12-2013, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marconi118

I have 2 brand new 13537585261 - 8 for sale.

Bought them 2 years ago when they where quite expensive.
Selling them because I need one more, so have to change all 6 with the new type

I am based in Europe

If you're willing to ship depending on price i'll maybe take them

Lankster · 02-12-2013, 04:29 PM

My car is in the shop as we speak getting many new things, including injectors... I hope I get the new ones!

DarkNemesis · 02-12-2013, 06:25 PM

Can someone tell me, what injectors I should be having?
2007 335i Sedan.
Built sept 2006 per Realoem.

Currently all 6 are:
13537537319-09

Thx in advance and interesting read.
DN

BMWM.D. · 02-12-2013, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juiced46

Your source is correct. Same applied to my place. You cannot order the 261s. Basically if you have 261s in stock, they want the dealer to use those first. However they cannot be ordered. If you order a 261 the order gets cancelled and you get 079s. If its an N63 it MUST get 079s. If you are trying to install less then 6 injectors, it MUST get 6 new 079s, unless there are 261s available.

We have had many N54s in the shop in the past few weeks that needed 1 to 3 injectors. All of them had to get 6 079s because of zero availability on the 261s

Yep, that's the way I took the situation as well. It's actually a good thing for guys still under warranty -- meaning if even 1 injector fails, a complete, updated set is installed. Sucks if you're out of warranty, though. I'd suspect a lot of aftermarket parts suppliers have a good stock of the "261" injectors still available, too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkNemesis

Can someone tell me, what injectors I should be having?
2007 335i Sedan.
Built sept 2006 per Realoem.

Currently all 6 are:
13537537319-09

Thx in advance and interesting read.
DN

If you need one or more injectors replaced, you can try to buy 13 53 7 585 261. Problem is, you probably won't find these at a BMW dealership as they are being phased out. Through BMW, the only real option right now is getting a set of 6 "improved" injectors, part # 13 53 8 616 079. You are not supposed to mix the new "079" injectors with the older style on the same engine. Hope that helps.

saxon · 02-12-2013, 09:21 PM

If the coding is the same I can't think of any logical reason why they can't be mixed?

Lifted07Duramax · 02-12-2013, 09:35 PM

So with these updates does this mean that they are better equipped to run E85 through without failing?

n54gte · 02-12-2013, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lifted07Duramax

So with these updates does this mean that they are better equipped to run E85 through without failing?

No one knows yet. Be the guinea pig

02-10-2013, 12:21 AM	#1
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02-10-2013, 04:54 AM	#4
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Autobahn335i Major Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 1,357 iTrader: (4)	On another forum it's stated that this new version has enhanced internal filtering and special thermo compensating oil. Definitely an upgrade then! Too bad the price has also been revised! __________________ E92 335i SB / Black Leather / 6AT / Navi Prof / Sunroof / Active Steering Mods: Performance Seats / Performance Exhaust / RB Turbos / Brembo GT BBK 355/345 / Forge FMIC / QUAIFE LSD / Bilstein PSS10 / M3 Suspension Parts / Vorshlag Camberplates / RE Toe Links / LeatherZ Gauges / Extended M3 DCT Paddles / ER Sports OC / AR OC / Aux Radiator / AR DPs / Alpina TCU Flash / COBB Pro-Tune Next: Transmission cooler / M3 CF Roof

02-10-2013, 03:55 PM	#10
BMWM.D. Master Tech Drives: E90 335i & LS3 C6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Santa Barbara Posts: 400 iTrader: (0)	I've installed a few sets of these new injectors. They are easily identified by their index number of "11". They are improved injectors that were mainly designed due to the problems BMW has been having with the N63 engines -- which seem to be more sensitive to injector tolerances. According to BMW, you can run either the new or old style in the N54, but you can't mix/match them on the same engine. Maybe my source was incorrect, but I was told the old part number was currently on back-order and that the new number was the same price. I'm assuming the new, improved parts are going to be the only option as soon as everyone runs out of the older "261" part number. __________________

02-10-2013, 05:30 PM	#12
Autobahn335i Major Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 1,357 iTrader: (4)	Oh boy. My shop had to order the injector in Germany as they were out of stock at the local dealership. I've got a bad feeling about this... And somehow my car does not qualify for the injector recall. FML __________________ E92 335i SB / Black Leather / 6AT / Navi Prof / Sunroof / Active Steering Mods: Performance Seats / Performance Exhaust / RB Turbos / Brembo GT BBK 355/345 / Forge FMIC / QUAIFE LSD / Bilstein PSS10 / M3 Suspension Parts / Vorshlag Camberplates / RE Toe Links / LeatherZ Gauges / Extended M3 DCT Paddles / ER Sports OC / AR OC / Aux Radiator / AR DPs / Alpina TCU Flash / COBB Pro-Tune Next: Transmission cooler / M3 CF Roof

02-10-2013, 04:13 AM	#2
Pankakez & BMWs Private First Class Drives: 2007 Jet Black E90 335i Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: California Posts: 168 iTrader: (2)	Very interested in this as well.

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caliguy562 Lieutenant Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: garaged somewhere in soCal Posts: 427 iTrader: (3)	Sons of bitches. I just had all 6 replaced last week with 5261 version. Bump for more information on new version.

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enrita Major General Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden Posts: 6,989 iTrader: (0)	filter and thermo oil? sounds like a great upgrade for E85 use... __________________ 07 335i AT - TD St.2 Turbos - COBB (Custom Cobb mapping by http://www.protuningfreaks.com/) - JB4G5 ISO - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - E85 Walbro - Injen Intake - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - AR DPs - midpipes 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - Level 10 AT upgrade - Alpina AT Flash

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AWil335i Private First Class Drives: 2007 E92 335i Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 175 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 BMW E92 335i [0.00]	Just replaced an injector on Thursday - but it looks like Tischer sent me the "previous" version. I was worried that I had put a new one in and it may be incompatible - but the car feels fantastic. __________________ 07 E92 335I \| JB4 G5 ISO \| BMS Flash \| DCI \| BMS DPs \| Helix FMIC \| Alpina TCU Flash \| Walbro GLS392 \|

02-12-2013, 11:07 AM	#15
marconi118 Captain Drives: 06/07 e93 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: europe Posts: 904 iTrader: (0)	I have 2 brand new 13537585261 - 8 for sale. Bought them 2 years ago when they where quite expensive. Selling them because I need one more, so have to change all 6 with the new type I am based in Europe

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DarkNemesis Private First Class Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Sedan Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Vancouver Posts: 173 iTrader: (0)	Can someone tell me, what injectors I should be having? 2007 335i Sedan. Built sept 2006 per Realoem. Currently all 6 are: 13537537319-09 Thx in advance and interesting read. DN

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saxon First Lieutenant Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: pa Posts: 321 iTrader: (2)	If the coding is the same I can't think of any logical reason why they can't be mixed?

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