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      02-10-2013, 07:11 PM   #1
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Switching back to staggered wheels?

My car is an 09 328i ZSP and the fuck pulled off the staggered wheels before he sold it. Is it possible to just replace the back 2 wheels with larger ones in the same OEM style? Is it even worth spending money to go back to staggered?
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      02-10-2013, 07:35 PM   #2
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Staggered=looks, form, and putting the power down in straight lines
Square= function and better track performance
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Staggered=looks, form, and putting the power down in straight lines
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If square has better track performance, why would an M3 and Boxster S come with staggered setups? These are cars that were designed for the track. The only cars that come square are Audis.

Granted, our cars neither M3's, Boxster S, or Corvettes, but they benefit performance-wise with the ZSP's staggered setup despite the open diff.

imho staggered is not just for looks, because most people do not notice when rears are 20 to 40 mm wider.
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Depending on the horsepower and suspension setup staggered can often be better.
Staggered dials in some understeer. Square, as long as the tires are wide enough give you the ability to put the power down to the ground and not have the understeer/plowing characteristic. Staggered tends to be safer because oversteer is harder to achieve.

All that being said, the e90 in higher horsepower configurations (335i/335d and M3) were designed to be staggered.

I have yet to see ALMS, F1 and most other race cars run square, for what it's worth.
I've been around race cars for 30+ years.
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My car is an 09 328i ZSP and the fuck pulled off the staggered wheels before he sold it. Is it possible to just replace the back 2 wheels with larger ones in the same OEM style? Is it even worth spending money to go back to staggered?
Try spacers if you want to "look" wider.
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I have the LCI staggered ZSP wheels on my car, and even though they are 17's, I have yet to find a wheel I want to trade them for. They are only half an inch wider in back but that supports the 235f/255r tire width better. You do have the option of upsizing the tires in front and to 255 if you want the "square" setup. I have tracked my car a couple of days and would not want less rubber in the ground than I have due to the weight of the car. Spacers are an option but only for looks and widen the track as if you have a staggered set but with less friction circle. Spacers on one axle usually also cut the tire warranty in half just like an actual staggered set due to the offset tracking of the tires.
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false. move along.
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I have the LCI staggered ZSP wheels on my car, and even though they are 17's, I have yet to find a wheel I want to trade them for. They are only half an inch wider in back but that supports the 235f/255r tire width better. You do have the option of upsizing the tires in front and to 255 if you want the "square" setup. I have tracked my car a couple of days and would not want less rubber in the ground than I have due to the weight of the car. Spacers are an option but only for looks and widen the track as if you have a staggered set but with less friction circle. Spacers on one axle usually also cut the tire warranty in half just like an actual staggered set due to the offset tracking of the tires.


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Tire wear/tread life warranties are reduce by half or voided on rear figment staggered setups due to the wider rear tracking wear on the setup. Some tire manufacturers apply the same rules to those that use spacers for cosmetic effect as well due to increased wear on the increased angle and pull created when cornering on an offset wheel track. In short, read the warranty before you choose a tire as you may be buying a tire with no warranty brand new.
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Got 19 inch staggered set up for the summer and 18 inch square for the winter.
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A lot of people like the look of staggered wheels but you can run square without an issue. Whether you find it worth your time is on you though.
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