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      02-14-2013, 11:10 AM   #1
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Priority...Intercooler or Downpipes?

I am about to order something for my car. I already have Proceed and DCI's. I wanted to know what would benifit me more, an intercooler or downpipes. Thanks for any advice given. Hope everyone has a good valentines day!!!
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downpipes. faster spool, better power gains, for a cheaper price
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What are the summers like where you live? If its anything like Texas I would go for the intercooler first.
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A lot of people find the Tune, DCI, Intercooler setups a lot more powerful then the tune dci downpipe setups.

Mainly because intake air temps are so hot without an aftermarket intercooler, tunes can't be as aggressive. I'd say go with the intercooler first. Let me know if you need any help deciding which to get.
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If you own the car then intercooler which will give you performance consistency
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I am about to order something for my car. I already have Proceed and DCI's. I wanted to know what would benifit me more, an intercooler or downpipes. Thanks for any advice given. Hope everyone has a good valentines day!!!
Intercooler, contact "Jeff" above.....great vendor to deal with
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A lot of people find the Tune, DCI, Intercooler setups a lot more powerful then the tune dci downpipe setups.

Mainly because intake air temps are so hot without an aftermarket intercooler, tunes can't be as aggressive. I'd say go with the intercooler first. Let me know if you need any help deciding which to get.
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just get both from VRSF for just over 700 dollars kill one bird with two stones
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just get both from VRSF for just over 700 dollars kill one bird with two stones
Or a used set of raceland dps for 100-150 and vrsf FMIC, DING DING DING
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I'd go fmic first, especially if you do or plan to do any tracking.

As far as which one, I like ets bc of ease of install and quality. The fitment is great as well. Fitment is key on these items and to me, it'a worth it to pay a little more so it fits right.

Cpe, bms and ar seem very well regarded as far as dp goes.
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just get both from VRSF for just over 700 dollars kill one bird with two stones
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FMIC hands down, with the OE unit your car is done after one or two pulls if it's at all hot out. Timing will be pulled so drastically your downpipes won't matter one bit. You can actually target pretty aggressively with a good intercooler, Cobb Stg1+ maps are without a doubt stronger than "normal" Stg2 mapping. Intercooler first, then downpipes.
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Can someone elaborate on the difficulty of installing the ER intercooler full kit?
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just get both from VRSF for just over 700 dollars kill one bird with two stones
This is what I did. Though still waiting on vrsf to get their new fmic's in stock. Then getting both shipped out together.
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wait for the new VRSF DP design, cast ends so the reduction from 3-2.5" is seamless.
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Just flashed Cobb Stg 1 aggressive about 2 weeks ago. Last Saturday got in to the 80's down here in Florida and took only about 25min of 0-60 short drags against a 350is and 2 WOT pulls (for cobb AP performance test) to go in to limp mode. Ill be ordering the FMIC within the month as the heat approaches.
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Or a used set of raceland dps for 100-150 and vrsf FMIC, DING DING DING
And then deal with the problems that come with cheap downpipes, DING DING DING
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How quickly does the stock IC heatsoak?
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wait for the new VRSF DP design, cast ends so the reduction from 3-2.5" is seamless.
didn't even know they were coming out with a new design is it coming out on the next batch? still waiting for my fmic and dp on order still
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