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      04-04-2013, 04:07 AM   #1
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Falken 452s or 453s

My tyre shop have ordered me in set of both falken 452 and 453. Now i have to choose which ones to go for. I prefer the tread pattern on the 452 but are the 453 a better tyre? Or are they on par? The 452 look like they would cut through the water better ?
Any one thats tried both or anyone no the any difference?

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I'd not run either tyre personally. However the 453 is meant to have a better compound structure underneath the initial exposed tyre.

For instance, many people used to complain (myself included) that for the first 8k or so miles the 452 was great but that they then really fall off a cliff and even become quite dangerous. The 453 was designed to alleviate this so that the performance remains more consistent.

I must say though whilst a decent dry tyre it's quite shockingly bad in the wet (the 452). Are you sure you want to run it on a 335d? I found that my 320d had far too much torque for the tyre. Great for progressive powerslides not great for confidence when really pressing on. So it was never even a tabled option when I got the 335d (Went for Contisport Contact 5Ps )

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agree with Dave, in the dry they are ok, but my 452's are pretty poor in the wet, and Ive only got half your power.
however, they are good value for money (in that they are cheap!) so there's always going to be a compromise.
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Yes, I think my one line summary of the 452 would be "quite good, considering ... ".
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Had the 452 and now the 453, first drive the noise level is much lower. Now that I have a few miles on them handling is fine, haven't ran in the wet yet but they get a B rating.
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Had the 452 and now the 453, first drive the noise level is much lower. Now that I have a few miles on them handling is fine, haven't ran in the wet yet but they get a B rating.
Wow, someone who think that new rating scheme means f*ck all! This is a first for me ...
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I've used 452. They are Okish.
453 get better reviews. Considering you have these two options, 453 is the way to go.
IF you can go for others, then try Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta.
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Or Vredestein Ultrac Vorti...
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Wow, someone who think that new rating scheme means f*ck all! This is a first for me ...
Was only quoting that I haven't ran them in the wet yet but going off the new ratings I'am expecting a better wet drive than the 452s but can't beat personal experience of each tyre.
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I think Falkens are a good all round tyre and ultimately value for money...

I've got 453's now and hard to really tell the difference between the two apart from the 453 having a prouder side wall.

People talk about grip etc and traction in the wet but all I would suggest is drive to your limits which includes the car, tyres and yourself!
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I'd not run either tyre personally. However the 453 is meant to have a better compound structure underneath the initial exposed tyre.

For instance, many people used to complain (myself included) that for the first 8k or so miles the 452 was great but that they then really fall off a cliff and even become quite dangerous. The 453 was designed to alleviate this so that the performance remains more consistent.

I must say though whilst a decent dry tyre it's quite shockingly bad in the wet (the 452). Are you sure you want to run it on a 335d? I found that my 320d had far too much torque for the tyre. Great for progressive powerslides not great for confidence when really pressing on. So it was never even a tabled option when I got the 335d (Went for Contisport Contact 5Ps )

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I thought about the contis but my tyre man said for the price difference there pretty much same on performance. Its tough choice really i mite get a price on the sp2. Like u said theres alot of power need to be carful. If i do go falkens i wil go 453.
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Had the 452 and now the 453, first drive the noise level is much lower. Now that I have a few miles on them handling is fine, haven't ran in the wet yet but they get a B rating.
Thats good to no. So if i do go falkens it wil def be 453s. cheers
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I've used 452. They are Okish.
453 get better reviews. Considering you have these two options, 453 is the way to go.
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Yeh i wil go 453 if i go down the falken route. I did want the vreds to start with but they dont make them in the size i want so tht was the end of that option.
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I think Falkens are a good all round tyre and ultimately value for money...

I've got 453's now and hard to really tell the difference between the two apart from the 453 having a prouder side wall.

People talk about grip etc and traction in the wet but all I would suggest is drive to your limits which includes the car, tyres and yourself!
Yeh thats it if you no the limit of them dont push past it simple lol
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Had he 452's on my golf and found they couldent put the power down - kept spinning through the gears

Replaced the fronts with Cont SC3's and miles better

Just bought 4 Michelin PSS for the 535, waiting to be fitted
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I've just put on a set of 453's on 19's and they seem good in the dry so far. No had much wet weather so can't comment. Ride is smooth and comfortable. A solid tyre. I originally wanted 452's but they are supposedly becoming harder to source becuase the 453's are meant to be the new improved version.
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I've just put on a set of 453's on 19's and they seem good in the dry so far. No had much wet weather so can't comment. Ride is smooth and comfortable. A solid tyre. I originally wanted 452's but they are supposedly becoming harder to source becuase the 453's are meant to be the new improved version.
They will have good enough grip for a 320d and be a significant upgrade from runflats.
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I've had Falkens for so long now I can't remember what other tyres are like. Would like to try another 335 with different tyres see how it compares! Maybe I'm missing out.....
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Even the 453's get poor reviews...

If you don't want to go top of the range do what I did and buy the Hankook S1 Evo 2. About the same price as Vreds but a lot better. They beat the conti 5's in some tests.
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A lot of these opinions could be misleading if some of you guys are comparing the worn tyres you are discarding with the replacement tyres. A new budget tyre would most likely outperform a bald quality tyre.
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Had he 452's on my golf and found they couldent put the power down - kept spinning through the gears

Replaced the fronts with Cont SC3's and miles better

Just bought 4 Michelin PSS for the 535, waiting to be fitted
thats a worry my rears will spin loads then, cont are looking best for me.
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I've just put on a set of 453's on 19's and they seem good in the dry so far. No had much wet weather so can't comment. Ride is smooth and comfortable. A solid tyre. I originally wanted 452's but they are supposedly becoming harder to source becuase the 453's are meant to be the new improved version.
yeh 452s are really hard to get hold of so i dont really wana get a set of them and then say get a puncture and then not be able to replace it that would piss me off, so best to go 453 or cont... does urs spin up much?
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I've had Falkens for so long now I can't remember what other tyres are like. Would like to try another 335 with different tyres see how it compares! Maybe I'm missing out.....
yeh its hard to tell i supose unless uve had another set of amazingly expensive tyres to compare what youve got to...
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Even the 453's get poor reviews...

If you don't want to go top of the range do what I did and buy the Hankook S1 Evo 2. About the same price as Vreds but a lot better. They beat the conti 5's in some tests.
ill take a look at them cheers mate
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A lot of these opinions could be misleading if some of you guys are comparing the worn tyres you are discarding with the replacement tyres. A new budget tyre would most likely outperform a bald quality tyre.
thats true but do they last aslong as quality tyres. its a tough one
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