ESS or COBB for a 335IS?

stupordave · 02-15-2013, 10:21 PM

Been searching and lurking for several months trying to decide to tune or not. No plans for extensive mods but would like better throttle response and a bit more power. Have a 2011 335is with 8,000 miles on it and want something realiable and issue free (for dealership visits also). Can't seem to decide between ESS or COBB? Seem like COBB is much more popular but why? No plans for an FMIC, downpipes, meth or dragstrip time. More of a weekend driver since I travel weekly. Have 93 octane readily available in my area. Any advice?

psmitty95 · 02-15-2013, 10:28 PM

Cobb in my opinion. I don't think i've heard of anyone on here running ESS so idk how the reviews are or how it is in terms of power. Cobb is also great since you can get a protune for more power

335iRlz · 02-15-2013, 10:31 PM

Cobb is insane and takes like 30 minutes! DON'T LET anyone talk you out of it! Cobb is outstanding!!! I spent over 1k on flash tunes before getting cobb. Don't make the mistake I did.

CRAZY POWER!

Timore · 02-15-2013, 10:47 PM

Have COBB on my 335is and it really unleashes the power of this car + the simplicity cannot be beaten. Go for it! I wasn't going to get any other mods on mine either... That plan didn't work... Haha got the mod bug

Fully_Bolted · 02-15-2013, 10:51 PM

Ontop of what others have said, the convenience of a handheld flasher and the fact that you can "unmarry" (uninstall) the tune and sell it when you are done really make Cobb a no brainer. Plus if you ever add more mods the OTS maps are free.

jlcf22 · 02-16-2013, 12:07 AM

Cobb i love my Cobb

Wedge1967 · 02-16-2013, 12:22 AM

I run a PROcede and I love my tune. But, if I had to do it all over again, I would be hard pressed not to just go with COBB and Aquamist. Regardless of what you do, just have fun with it and learn as much as you can. If you don't understand anything about your car, you're wasting your time.

BuraQ · 02-16-2013, 03:36 AM

The first 335is to break 11 was with Cobb AP Protuned by Jake@PTF

There are multiple flavors of power to select from the Cobb AP provided you have the supporting mods.

Also, whenever you need to resell the Cobb AP it holds its value

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 02-16-2013, 08:55 AM

COBB or JB4 G5 ISO

Mike

jazze90 · 02-16-2013, 09:20 AM

COBB

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BEAR-AvHistory · 02-16-2013, 01:00 PM

Based on the OP's requirements COBB would be a better choice.

WesleyC · 02-16-2013, 01:07 PM

Cobb all the way. Almost nobody uses the ESS tune. That doesn't mean that it is bad, but if you ever have any questions, it will be hard to get answers unless you talk to ESS directly.

The handheld flashloader for Cobb is really great, too. Loading maps is very easy.

themyst · 02-16-2013, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

COBB AND JB4 G5 ISO

Mike

Fixed.

pepper1 · 02-16-2013, 04:33 PM

2013 335is with 4000 miles. Cobb tune put on with 500 miles on car. Plan no other mods like you. Like many have said-Crazy and fun power. No fuss install.. You wont regret it! Good luck!

Kayani_1 · 02-16-2013, 05:33 PM

Go with Cobb tune. I was in same situation as you. I just wanted to do a tune and no major upgrades. I wanted to just run stage 1 aggressive with 93octane. For that purpose the cobb served me real well.

However, like few others said once the mod bug bites you will soon find yourself doing small upgrades here and there. I ended up going with more free flowing catback exhaust for mostly sound and bit more power. Next step I can see coming is down pipes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stupordave

Been searching and lurking for several months trying to decide to tune or not. No plans for extensive mods but would like better throttle response and a bit more power. Have a 2011 335is with 8,000 miles on it and want something realiable and issue free (for dealership visits also). Can't seem to decide between ESS or COBB? Seem like COBB is much more popular but why? No plans for an FMIC, downpipes, meth or dragstrip time. More of a weekend driver since I travel weekly. Have 93 octane readily available in my area. Any advice?

Envuks · 02-17-2013, 07:13 PM

I run ESS. I made a conscience decision to run it. I have found it to be insanely fast and easy to switch programs using a laptop.

There's not a lot of people on this forum who run the ess tune, but it really is a top notch tune.

Shoot me a message if you have any specific questions

Yodaime · 02-18-2013, 04:07 AM

Corn on da Cobb bud.

stupordave · 02-18-2013, 07:35 AM

Thanks for the advice. Looks fairly unanimous for COBB.

Tomz_M3 · 02-18-2013, 08:11 AM

G5 Iso rocks. Insane power and you can use methanol for even more power very easily.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 02-18-2013, 11:49 AM

Quote:

COBB AND JB4 G5 ISO

Quote:

Originally Posted by themyst

Fixed.

Even better

Mike

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 02-18-2013, 12:03 PM

Nothing against ESS tunes, but Cobb is just easier to do.

stupordave · 02-28-2013, 08:42 AM

First drive on the COBB tune is complete. All I can say is WOW. Easy install, no error codes, and a noticeable improvement in power. Kicking myself for waiting a year to install a tune. One the linear throttle setting, the car drives smoother for around town and has more power than the tires can handle when you get on it. Money well spent.

02-15-2013, 10:21 PM	#1
stupordave Private First Class Drives: 2011 335is Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 169 iTrader: (1)	ESS or COBB for a 335IS? Been searching and lurking for several months trying to decide to tune or not. No plans for extensive mods but would like better throttle response and a bit more power. Have a 2011 335is with 8,000 miles on it and want something realiable and issue free (for dealership visits also). Can't seem to decide between ESS or COBB? Seem like COBB is much more popular but why? No plans for an FMIC, downpipes, meth or dragstrip time. More of a weekend driver since I travel weekly. Have 93 octane readily available in my area. Any advice?
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02-15-2013, 10:28 PM	#2
psmitty95 Brigadier General Drives: 2009 E90 335i xDrive Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Greenwich, CT Posts: 3,566 iTrader: (8)	Cobb in my opinion. I don't think i've heard of anyone on here running ESS so idk how the reviews are or how it is in terms of power. Cobb is also great since you can get a protune for more power __________________ < Click picture for photoshoot E90 335i xDrive 6spd, Nav, Prem, Cold Weather, & Sports package - Msport Conversion Mods: FBO + Meth JB4 ISO, BB flash, VRSF DP/FMIC, ER CP, Stett, SteveAZ LPFP & more More Pictures: Build Thread /// Shop I use: Aci Dynamix 408AWHP/ 483AWTQ Uncorrected Mustang Dyno
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02-15-2013, 10:47 PM	#4
Timore Private Drives: 2012 335is Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 66 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 BMW 335is [5.00]	Have COBB on my 335is and it really unleashes the power of this car + the simplicity cannot be beaten. Go for it! I wasn't going to get any other mods on mine either... That plan didn't work... Haha got the mod bug __________________ 2012 335is Sapphire Black/Red Dakota COBB Protune \| AFE DCI \| AWE BOVs \| BMS Downpipes \| ETS FMIC If you dont know... !
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02-16-2013, 03:36 AM	#8
BuraQ Colonel Drives: 11" E92 335is Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 2,850 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 335is [2.88]	The first 335is to break 11 was with Cobb AP Protuned by Jake@PTF There are multiple flavors of power to select from the Cobb AP provided you have the supporting mods. Also, whenever you need to resell the Cobb AP it holds its value __________________ AP-V3 & Cobb Protuned by PTF: (New Times Coming Soon) RENNtech Tuning: 11.78 ET @ 116 Mph in 1/4 mile YouTube Dinan Stage 3: 12.5 ET (Best) 111 Mph (Best) in 1/4 mile 400+ launches, 3 Driveshafts, No DCT Slippage, Flash Only
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02-16-2013, 09:20 AM	#10
jazze90 Captain Drives: '07 335i, '09 M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Thornhill Posts: 602 iTrader: (0)	COBB /thread __________________ '07 335i E90 - PTF ProTUNED by Dzenno - COBB FMIC - AFE DCI - AA DPs - HFS4 Meth '09 M3 - Stock
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02-15-2013, 10:31 PM	#3
335iRlz Captain Drives: 335i RiP,M3,f10m5 gone, m4 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: MD Posts: 949 iTrader: (3)	Cobb is insane and takes like 30 minutes! DON'T LET anyone talk you out of it! Cobb is outstanding!!! I spent over 1k on flash tunes before getting cobb. Don't make the mistake I did. CRAZY POWER!
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02-15-2013, 10:51 PM	#5
Fully_Bolted Banned Drives: E92 335i Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: USA Posts: 443 iTrader: (0)	Ontop of what others have said, the convenience of a handheld flasher and the fact that you can "unmarry" (uninstall) the tune and sell it when you are done really make Cobb a no brainer. Plus if you ever add more mods the OTS maps are free.
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02-16-2013, 12:07 AM	#6
jlcf22 Second Lieutenant Drives: 335i09 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: bakersfield CA Posts: 212 iTrader: (0)	Cobb i love my Cobb
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02-16-2013, 12:22 AM	#7
Wedge1967 Colonel Drives: '07 e92 AT Sport Montego Blue Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 2,173 iTrader: (3)	I run a PROcede and I love my tune. But, if I had to do it all over again, I would be hard pressed not to just go with COBB and Aquamist. Regardless of what you do, just have fun with it and learn as much as you can. If you don't understand anything about your car, you're wasting your time.
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02-16-2013, 08:55 AM	#9
Mike@N54Tuning.com BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: 07335i Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 14,287 iTrader: (86)	COBB or JB4 G5 ISO Mike
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02-16-2013, 01:00 PM	#11
BEAR-AvHistory 335is 7DCT/JB4+COBB Drives: 2014 435M-Sport MPPK Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: NC - USA Posts: 2,140 iTrader: (0)	Based on the OP's requirements COBB would be a better choice. __________________ Kevin 2014 435M-Sport - 2013 135is Cab JB4/ISO 6MT - 2009 V-Star - 2009 Ford Expedition EL 4X4 - 2003 Xterra 4X4 - 1998 Ranger 4X4 - FFR Cobra MK-IV work in progress
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02-16-2013, 01:07 PM	#12
WesleyC Colonel Drives: . Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: . Posts: 2,884 iTrader: (20)	Cobb all the way. Almost nobody uses the ESS tune. That doesn't mean that it is bad, but if you ever have any questions, it will be hard to get answers unless you talk to ESS directly. The handheld flashloader for Cobb is really great, too. Loading maps is very easy.
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02-16-2013, 04:33 PM	#14
pepper1 Private Drives: 2013 335 IS Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: East Posts: 76 iTrader: (0)	2013 335is with 4000 miles. Cobb tune put on with 500 miles on car. Plan no other mods like you. Like many have said-Crazy and fun power. No fuss install.. You wont regret it! Good luck!
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02-17-2013, 07:13 PM	#16
Envuks Captain Drives: '08 e92 335xi Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: MA Posts: 718 iTrader: (2)	I run ESS. I made a conscience decision to run it. I have found it to be insanely fast and easy to switch programs using a laptop. There's not a lot of people on this forum who run the ess tune, but it really is a top notch tune. Shoot me a message if you have any specific questions __________________ Jet black e92 6mt 335xi: 18" BBS RGRs, KW v1, ESS Stage 2 flash, VRSF 7" FMIC, VRSF downpipes, JG Mods m-tech front, mtec V3 AEs, BMS OCC, hardwired valentine 1, p3cars gauge, amber delete, sport seats, factory oil cooler.
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02-18-2013, 07:35 AM	#18
stupordave Private First Class Drives: 2011 335is Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 169 iTrader: (1)	Thanks for the advice. Looks fairly unanimous for COBB. __________________ 2011 TiAg 335is, Dinan Stage 2 Susp, Dinan FMIC + Oil Cooler, COBB PTF Tune
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02-18-2013, 08:11 AM	#19
Tomz_M3 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 08 Jet Black E90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 1,749 iTrader: (11)	G5 Iso rocks. Insane power and you can use methanol for even more power very easily. __________________ Stock....
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02-18-2013, 12:03 PM	#21
Jeff@TopGearSolutions BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: C6 Z06, GSXR-750, 09 335i Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: TopGearSolutions.com Posts: 16,306 iTrader: (31)	Nothing against ESS tunes, but Cobb is just easier to do. __________________ 80 Watt Version 2 H8 Angel Eyes \| Best Price On COBB AP & BMS JB4 \| VRSF FMIC / Downpipes 10% Off + Free Shipping on ER Charge Pipe!
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02-28-2013, 08:42 AM	#22
stupordave Private First Class Drives: 2011 335is Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Charlotte,NC Posts: 169 iTrader: (1)	First drive on the COBB tune is complete. All I can say is WOW. Easy install, no error codes, and a noticeable improvement in power. Kicking myself for waiting a year to install a tune. One the linear throttle setting, the car drives smoother for around town and has more power than the tires can handle when you get on it. Money well spent.
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