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      02-22-2013, 08:23 AM   #1
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WAGNER IC Dynos

Ok amigos I installed the IC and WHOA this car turned a Jekyll and Hyde on me, even the Dyno guy who drove the car stated that the car shifted way faster and the power was VERY noticeable. To be bluont with you guys the car JUMPED off the rolling pines and almost sheit on our selves. The car was tied up properly and and the torque was so sudden and fast that yes the car jumped. here are the runs:


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      02-22-2013, 10:33 AM   #3
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Axel I can't see Jack! lol

Can you summarize in writing the before dyno results and after, the smoothing that was used and if was measured using SAE each time, as well as approx temps during both visits? An overlay would be even better.

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This was from your first dyno... Hopefully you have 3 pulls to compare against the 3 below.

Ok Amigos did the dyno run last nite cme up with 306.71 1st run and 303.78 second run on third run we got 296.5
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I see 303.78 which is prob the HP and then I see what might look like 386.71 which could be the TQ figures?
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Need more details now!!!
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Lol. Wow, ax, now I get why you wanted me to post the pics of your intake (which I swear I will get to)...you suck at it.

I say this with the cynical candor of friendship, of course.

The suspense is killing us. Think you can type your before and afters?
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I see 303.78 which is prob the HP and then I see what might look like 386.71 which could be the TQ figures?
Cause der ain't no way in hell an IC would make hp jump up like dat. Maybe that high reading came from when the car broke loose on the dyno or sumpin? That said, I personally witnessed one JBD d w/a cold engine thrown on a mustang dyno w/hood open put out 340+ whp.
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Ok amigos first dymo w/o wagner was 307 whp at 76 F second dyno w wagner 311.29 and second run 306.7 at temp of 90 F
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Ok amigos first dymo w/o wagner was 307 whp at 76 F second dyno w wagner 311.29 and second run 306.7 at temp of 90 F
So looks like about 1-2% better than stock on first and second runs. Third run would have been the better teller
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I believe we would lost 4-5 ponies but im happy. Im monotoring fuel and for first time EVER. The computer reading was stating 46 MPG at 70 mph vice 36 mpg bfore the IC
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I believe we would lost 4-5 ponies but im happy. Im monotoring fuel and for first time EVER. The computer reading was stating 46 MPG at 70 mph vice 36 mpg bfore the IC
Thats interesting. Please do a hand calculation over your next tank. The computer is a guestimate and has a variable correction factor
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I believe we would lost 4-5 ponies but im happy. Im monotoring fuel and for first time EVER. The computer reading was stating 46 MPG at 70 mph vice 36 mpg bfore the IC
Holy hell, batman! Axel, did Lenny adapt your RENNtech tune for the Wagner or did you just bolt on with the existing tune? I'm coming up on the end of warranty, what do you think...JBD+meth or RENNtech + Wagner?
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Taibanl I always do the math but it was interesting in seing this before i never came to only 40 mpg hwy. Rotor Lenny reprogrammed ecu cause I told him I needed boost all the way thru 5k and this was w/o wagner ic Wohoo! ! Rotor give a call ok
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Hey everyone before any more questions LOOK AT THE TEMPS the car ran under first n second dynos ok!!!!
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Holy hell, batman! Axel, did Lenny adapt your RENNtech tune for the Wagner or did you just bolt on with the existing tune? I'm coming up on the end of warranty, what do you think...JBD+meth or RENNtech + Wagner?
Warning---dumb question coming. I guess you could run a Wagner IC with an Evolve tune too?
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Taibanl I always do the math but it was interesting in seing this before i never came to only 40 mpg hwy. Rotor Lenny reprogrammed ecu cause I told him I needed boost all the way thru 5k and this was w/o wagner ic Wohoo! ! Rotor give a call ok
Axel will chat w/u later - my office is no place for that.

It looks promising and I did take note of the temps .

To clarif, did Renntech reprogram before or after your first dyno w/o the Wagner IC?
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Warning---dumb question coming. I guess you could run a Wagner IC with an Evolve tune too?
You could even put it on your car without a tune.
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