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      08-28-2007, 04:26 PM   #23
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Funny how the admins just wait for these to get out of control instead of stopping these stupid comments.

There is more than one options. Procede isn't the best tuning option either. Doesn't allow you to tune to your specific car or mods either. Ouch.
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      08-28-2007, 04:37 PM   #24
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A long time ago owned a 1986 Buick Grand National. I bought it new. I disconnected the pressure regulating valve and hooked up a needle valve thereby increasing the boost pressure on the waist gate. Was I crazy or what? However, it worked like a charm and the motor was much stronger. I think I increased the boost by about 2-3 PSI and it killed all the other stock GN's in the area. Why is that this engine pretty much adapted to the increased pressure. Don't the engine managment systems sort of tweak based on airflow and throttle position? I know Eugene can answer this one.
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Funny how the admins just wait for these to get out of control instead of stopping these stupid comments.

There is more than one options. Procede isn't the best tuning option either. Doesn't allow you to tune to your specific car or mods either. Ouch.
Don't go there man, stooping down to that level isn't worth it.
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      08-28-2007, 04:53 PM   #26
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I'm just pointing out the holes in peoples blind faith that only one person know something.
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      08-28-2007, 04:57 PM   #27
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Beer are you running jb S2?
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      08-28-2007, 05:19 PM   #28
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I have the S1 in my car. And I'm not against the other tuning options.
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      08-28-2007, 05:22 PM   #29
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just curious, how you liking s1? i had it for a week and went on over to s2....are planning on getting s2?
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      08-28-2007, 05:44 PM   #30
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Oh god, not another one. Please stop with these "JuiceBox" threads.
how about everyone stop with all the "procede" threads. I have neither, but it's crap that someone say stop this thread or stop that thread. why does procede deserve to have 8 billion threads about it, but juicebox doesn't deserve any? also, why is it that certain people feel they need to come in and bash any product that isn't what they like? "hope you don't blow your motor" - well eugene, I hope you don't blow yours either...

some people are so blinded by hype that they don't bother to understand how things function and work, or to even care if something is or isn't safe before they go jumping up on their soapbox
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      08-28-2007, 06:13 PM   #31
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just curious, how you liking s1? i had it for a week and went on over to s2....are planning on getting s2?

The S1 was a noticeable bump in power. Nothing huge, but you can feel the increase in power. I'm not planning on S2 at this point and will wait to see how that pans out and what other options are out there. I don't really want to get the bug on modding this car because it's a lease and I don't want to waste money on it.
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The S1 was a noticeable bump in power. Nothing huge, but you can feel the increase in power. I'm not planning on S2 at this point and will wait to see how that pans out and what other options are out there. I don't really want to get the bug on modding this car because it's a lease and I don't want to waste money on it.
If you get $250 (or whatever the cost of the unit) worth of psychic benefit from the JB S2, then it's not a waste.
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Oh god, not another one. Please stop with these "JuiceBox" threads.
Why even take the time to reply if you are so anti-JB, just igonore it and move to the next topic. Seems as though you still have some curiosity as to how well and/or how much people like the JB and AREN'T having problems at this point...which i don't completely understand why you even read the blog if you have a procede (or are going to purchase one)?
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      08-28-2007, 06:32 PM   #34
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Why even take the time to reply if you are so anti-JB, just igonore it and move to the next topic. Seems as though you still have some curiosity as to how well and/or how much people like the JB and AREN'T having problems at this point...which i don't completely understand why you even read the blog if you have a procede (or are going to purchase one)?
Guys I think he got the message....I don't think we need to address it anymore.
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      08-28-2007, 06:38 PM   #35
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the maker is banned from this forum... why dont u take the juice box threads to bimmerforums... btw read the sticky on the top of the page.

Because as a "member" we can talk about what we what just like you. Non of the members with the JB are going into other threads where people are talking about their tuning products and talking shit, or making ignorant comments about blowing up engines or going into limp. Learn.
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      08-28-2007, 06:39 PM   #36
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the maker is banned from this forum... why dont u take the juice box threads to bimmerforums... btw read the sticky on the top of the page.
If that is the consensus of the majority of the forum members then i would be happy to stop posting on JB on this forum.

It would be a shame however, because it seems this forum is a little bit more interested specifically in all things 335 and its tuning.

Perhaps a referendum asking the question is in order?
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      08-28-2007, 06:47 PM   #37
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hey, im just saying maybe thats why members around here dont wanna hear about the terry...

btw people arent going into other threads maybe because the maker of the product wasnt banned and has a sticky saying BEWARE.

JUST A IDEA
So the 15 people who do the same thing that you hate about people who own JB make up the collective?

Stop being a tool and just move on with life. If this is all you have to worry about maybe it's time to rethink your direction?

You don't like the JB....stop talking about it.
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      08-28-2007, 06:51 PM   #38
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hey, im just saying maybe thats why members around here dont wanna hear about the terry...

btw people arent going into other threads maybe because the maker of the product wasnt banned and has a sticky saying BEWARE.

JUST A IDEA

Obviously people are interested when there are twenty something replies to the thread in a few hours. If you dont want to hear about it, then DON'T OPEN IT. Its not that hard. If you want to bash Terry's products, open your own thread doing so and let us have a civilized conversation about a tuning product that we are interested in. Its so sad that there are always a couple of jerks that have to cause problems until the thread gets closed. Grow up.
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i was just throwing ideas to why some people might not like the JB.
but alright BEER GOGGLES, ill stop.

Yeah because "BRISK" is so much more of an appropriate screen name. You're throwing out personal OPINION of why you don't like somebody. There is nothing to back up you posting other than the stuff you make up about one product and not the other.

FYI, BEER GOGGLES is a funny name, and since I work at a Beer Publication...sort of fits. It doesn't imply that I drink all day.

If you want to make up stories and personal reasons stop going to places where members with E9Xs are discussing something.
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      08-28-2007, 07:05 PM   #40
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I'm not sure what being liked has to do with making and selling products. I'm just going off a guess that Bill Gates, and 99% of the other people who manufacture and make products are assholes.
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Congratulations. I hope you will not blow your engine
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Congratulations. I hope you will not blow your engine
I hope you don't either since realistically you have the same chance as I.
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Congratulations. I hope you will not blow your engine
Thanks "eugen"
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Please keep up the JB posts. I for one am interested in learning more about the product. I think keeping the boost levels lower (than the Procede) is safer while still giving someone an appreciable bump in performance.

I can't remember if it was here of bimmerfest, but someone posted dynos of the JB and Procede, and if anything the AF ratios of the Procede seemed all over the place in the lower rpms.

The JB torque curves have the same basic shape as the stock ones except a constant gain at every rpm. This would lead me to believe the JB would offer better driveability for the street.

Don't knock the product because it is inexpensive or because the guy was a jerk awhile ago. So far, we've only seen good results at small increases in boost from this product. Options are good.
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