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      02-22-2013, 01:57 AM   #1
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Question E90 320D Cold Star problems

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My E90 320D lately started giving staring problem during cold mornings. Rang the dealer hywycombe sytner and they said it will cost 90+ VAT to diagnose the problem, hence went to TWGautomotive in Camberly.

The guy did my clutch in the past very good...he ran the diagnostic check and 4 Glow Plugs are showing error codes so he suspects that Controller Unit is faulty needs replacing. But he also thinks once opened it could be 1 or 2 glow plugs faulty as well.

He said it would cost something between 200 to 200 for parts + labour. I looked on the net and it doesnt look like both the controller unit and the glow plugs do not cost close to 100 then is this a reasonable quote? Please suggest. Thank you.
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High Wycombe are asses...poor customer service and will avoid your phone calls at all times!! Do not use them regardless...they will steal from you!!!!!!
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The genuine controller is ~100, glow plugs are about 30 each, so I'd say that's on the money
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I just replaced mine,

It is a beru control unit, cost me £61 online, fitted myself in less than an hour.

I replaced four glow plugs last year and I checked the resistance on them and they where fine.

New beru glow plugs are less then £10.
Beru is bmw oem supplier.

Some people on hear don't have a clue what there talking about,

£30 for a glow plug!!!

I can give you details of supplier if you want.

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I just replaced mine,

It is a beru control unit, cost me £61 online, fitted myself in less than an hour.

I replaced four glow plugs last year and I checked the resistance on them and they where fine.

New beru glow plugs are less then £10.
Beru is bmw oem supplier.

Some people on hear don't have a clue what there talking about,

£30 for a glow plug!!!

I can give you details of supplier if you want.

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Hi, Thank you, please send me the supplier details, but even if I buy them I dont know how to fit them myself..I am poor with DIY hence waht do you suggest? pls
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High Wycombe are asses...poor customer service and will avoid your phone calls at all times!! Do not use them regardless...they will steal from you!!!!!!
you are right..they sais they need me to leave the car for 1 day to diagnose the problem and I need to take a courtesy car...and the earliest they can do diagnosis in March 2nd and then for fitting 2 glow plugs and controller unit it is 500 GBP...what a ripoff....

licence to print money!!!
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Some people on hear don't have a clue what there talking about,

£30 for a glow plug!!!

I can give you details of supplier if you want.

Cheers

Go to the local dealer and come back when you've spoken to them about prices
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I got it wrong..............



























They're actually 40 EACH!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Genuin...item2a273bb042
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In that case for me to pay between 200 to 300 for changing the controller unit and 2 glow plugs seems to be fine...at twgautomotive camberly..

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I got it wrong..............



























They're actually 40 EACH!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Genuin...item2a273bb042
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No need to spend stupid money on glow plugs - aftermarket OEM Beru ones will be a lot cheaper.
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No need to spend stupid money on glow plugs - aftermarket OEM Beru ones will be a lot cheaper.
what about the control unit?

If I buy them myself, would someone fit is? generally the garages say they will get the part and fit it as well isn;t it?
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go here to see the beru parts for your car

http://www.beru.com/aftermarket/product-finder

my 2006 requires

Glow Plug

ISS

GE 102

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0 100 266 002

Control Unit, glow plug system

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GSE 101

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0 522 120 701


for the glow plug

buy here www.misterauto.co.uk
bosch for 8.70 each and you get 15% off

or here you get control unit and glow plugs

http://www.buycarparts.co.uk/bmw/3-s...0252/glow-plug

beru 13.98

control unit

http://www.buycarparts.co.uk/bmw/3-s...rol-unit-relay

54.98

i can tell you for a fact that the unit i removed is a beru and the plugs i changed are beru.

Buy these parts and take them to any garage and they will fit them no bother.

If the glow plugs have never been changed i would just buy the four plugs and the relay unit have them fitted and forget about it.


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go here to see the beru parts for your car

http://www.beru.com/aftermarket/product-finder

my 2006 requires

Glow Plug

ISS

GE 102

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0 100 266 002

Control Unit, glow plug system

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GSE 101

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0 522 120 701


for the glow plug

buy here www.misterauto.co.uk
bosch for 8.70 each and you get 15% off

or here you get control unit and glow plugs

http://www.buycarparts.co.uk/bmw/3-s...0252/glow-plug

beru 13.98

control unit

http://www.buycarparts.co.uk/bmw/3-s...rol-unit-relay

54.98

i can tell you for a fact that the unit i removed is a beru and the plugs i changed are beru.

Buy these parts and take them to any garage and they will fit them no bother.

If the glow plugs have never been changed i would just buy the four plugs and the relay unit have them fitted and forget about it.


easy
hi, thats great! thanks a lot for all the information...very useful..I will order the parts online and once delivered will get it fixed by a local garage..sure it is going ti same me a lot of money

BTW my 320D is 55 plate so guess these are the same parts required..anyway will check now on beru site..
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Guys...got a new glow plug controller and also 3 new glow plugs...one could not be replaced as it was too tight to remove...unfortunately car still sometimes doesnt start when cold and I get all sorts of DTC, cruise control yell warnings and car stops...I wait for few seconds in ignition 2 stage and restart - starts fine and for the rest of the day no issues..

not sure what else could be causing this..I know regret not taking this to BMW dealer....may be the diagnosis was not correct by twgautomotive? any thoughts please help...
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I would go back to Will and speak with them it could be the glow plugs and controller was just initla problem. Also if the one not replaced is at fault you need to get it changed.

In past i had similar isue on my A3 and it was one plug pulling way too much current virtually draining the battery in instant. Changed all four and problem was solved.

If you still have one in there get that sorted and another ecu sweep as well.

Also how old is your battery have you had it tested
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I would go back to Will and speak with them it could be the glow plugs and controller was just initla problem. Also if the one not replaced is at fault you need to get it changed.

In past i had similar isue on my A3 and it was one plug pulling way too much current virtually draining the battery in instant. Changed all four and problem was solved.

If you still have one in there get that sorted and another ecu sweep as well.

Also how old is your battery have you had it tested
Hi, thank you for the advise..I agree may be you are right..it could that one last old glow plug causing the issues..Will kindly agreed to look into this Monday..hope it gets resolved...its worrying if you know your car may not start all the time...lets see...also thx for the tip..I will get the battery checked as well..
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If that plug is faulty it will cause start problems.
When my control unit failed the engine always started just idled rough till it was warm.

If you are any good with computers you can install INPA software to find faults.
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Guys...got a new glow plug controller and also 3 new glow plugs...one could not be replaced as it was too tight to remove...unfortunately car still sometimes doesnt start when cold and I get all sorts of DTC, cruise control yell warnings and car stops...I wait for few seconds in ignition 2 stage and restart - starts fine and for the rest of the day no issues..

not sure what else could be causing this..I know regret not taking this to BMW dealer....may be the diagnosis was not correct by twgautomotive? any thoughts please help...
When it doesnt start, is the car cranking but not firing up? And you get bombarded with errors?
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thanks everyone for the posts and suggestions..today I took my car again and a further cold start diagnosis revealed issues with "relay" and it is now been replaced...cost me 73 altogether...so hopefully no more cold start issues...lets see tomorrow morning
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When it doesnt start, is the car cranking but not firing up? And you get bombarded with errors?
yes not firing up and bombarding wtih errors..but as said in my last post..all sorted out now..
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If that plug is faulty it will cause start problems.
When my control unit failed the engine always started just idled rough till it was warm.

If you are any good with computers you can install INPA software to find faults.
I can install the INPA software but not sure hot connect to OBC?
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