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      02-22-2013, 05:29 PM   #23
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Warning---dumb question coming. I guess you could run a Wagner IC with an Evolve tune too?
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You could even put it on your car without a tune.
Duh! I asked because there was the implication that to get the full advantage out of the IC you should tweak your tune. Renntech seems to have a handle on that, but wasn't sure if Evolve would.
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What were the temperatures being discussed here?
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Duh! I asked because there was the implication that to get the full advantage out of the IC you should tweak your tune. Renntech seems to have a handle on that, but wasn't sure if Evolve would.
The only tweaking that may or may not be required would be because of to much of a pressure drop and need to compensate for that with more boost. That being said, a tuner might be willing to squeeze more juice out of your car if you have a larger IC, since most of the off-shelf tunes are set-up for a stock engine.

In any event Evolve can set custom parameters as well, but ideally that should not be necessary.
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Dynojet . Car was reprogrammed prior to flash.
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Dynojet . Car was reprogrammed prior to flash.
Axel, to clarify, do you mean Renntech reprogrammed your car prior to your first/baseline dyno session without the Wagner IC?
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Ok was programmed by Renntech then w the egr issue I lost somewhat 30 ponies I then wrnt t lakepark and had lenny give better set up we dynoed and got 307 whp vice 300, now we got 311.29 but at higher temp on that particular hope this clears any misunderstandings
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Ok was programmed by Renntech then w the egr issue I lost somewhat 30 ponies I then wrnt t lakepark and had lenny give better set up we dynoed and got 307 whp vice 300, now we got 311.29 but at higher temp on that particular hope this clears any misunderstandings


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This is the e-mail I just got from Carsten at Wagner Tuning:

"Hello John,

We've been waiting for our Flowbench almost 20 weeks. We finally got it last week. In the past we did send the coolers
out and had them tested, their bench was not pushing enough air for testing the coolers for bigger applications. Now we have our own bench that is able to push 1000cfm. We will have power for it by end of next week, a bit of time for calibration and testing. So we are looking around 2 weeks for some results."
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Ok amigos there u go a positive response for those doubters
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PR, thanks for taking the time to post & clarify, man! U2 Greek!
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Some more info. I e-mailed Wagner to get some details on their cores, specifically if they were Garrett ones:

Hello John,

No we are not using "off the Shelf Cores"
All our Cores are made to our specs by European standard DIN ISO
Certified Radiator companies, to ensure the quality.


Mit freundlichen Grüßen/ best Regards

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Forgot to mention that Carsten said the IC was a "bar and plate" type, not a "tube and fin" design.
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Ok amigos test drove the ANIMAL, the car is driving like a BAT out of hell specifically from 60 to 120 yes you READ that CORRECTO!! As far as mpg I have seen some gain but most of my driving is in the city and thats what Im focusing on, so it wont be until next tank fuel I can give a better assesment. So far I have over 180 miles and still two and half notches before half tank. And trust me I have been driving this BIATCH yesterday alone I cranked about 5 times to 130 mph and still begging for more
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Amigos I must tell you this WAGNER IC is by far well developed!! I have seen others but DO NOT compare to WAGNER as far as I am concern, not to discredit others. Even my mechanic and his employees stated that this by far was one of the best ICs he had seen and he has installed alot of them on Bimmers and other vehicles.
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Hmmm, maybe I should add this to my performance wish list. Just the way to attract the law and increase the chances of an early demise.
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335d you will regret it if you DONT LOL, trust me TurboEd from another forum did it w/o a flash and he noticed great gains in performance and MPG!!!!
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I eagerly await the test results from Wagner. Let's see if their two week promise holds up.
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greek amigo be patient on this they have been the ONLY source to offer and construct something for us, BTW Im enjoy my IC as we speak LOL
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Good stuff amigo. I have many more mods to do before the IC so I have LOTS of patience...lol.
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