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      05-11-2014, 01:04 AM   #1
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How can I make my car handle better without..

Going to a full coil over conversion.

I just put on some Michelin PSS tires and I love them so far. I think handling did improve a bit but my main gripe right now is still the body lean. I have an all stock e90 xi sedan btw. My question is has anyone done any other work to their suspension with good results without changing their shocks/springs? Bushings, sway bars, etc.

Are there any worthwhile upgrades from non-xi/M models that are a direct swap and actually provide noticeable improvement to the handling characteristics?
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Dude I just installed KW V3's, and it's insane how much better the car is. Coilovers are worth every penny.

When you weigh opportunity cost, coilovers might be your best bet.

If you are really adverse to them, you may want to look into:

-M3 rear sway bar
-UUC front sway bar (I think)
-Bushings are good, but a pain to install
-Plethora or spring/strut combos to choose from

Edit: there's definitely more stuff out there that I didn't list here. I'm no suspension guru.
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Without doing springs and struts you won't see much of a difference except in the size of your wallet.
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Dude I just installed KW V3's, and it's insane how much better the car is. Coilovers are worth every penny.

When you weigh opportunity cost, coilovers might be your best bet.

If you are really adverse to them, you may want to look into:

-M3 rear sway bar
-UUC front sway bar (I think)
-Bushings are good, but a pain to install
-Plethora or spring/strut combos to choose from

Edit: there's definitely more stuff out there that I didn't list here. I'm no suspension guru.
Its not that I'm adverse to them, just don't have $2k+ to drop right now. From what I'm hearing though and from searching it seems like the coilover option is the best way to go value-wise.

Struts/springs seem to have their own issues unless you're going with a shorter front shock customized for our XI's. Then you'd have to find a good linear spring with the right rates for your needs.

Either way, I guess I just gotta start saving.
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Its not that I'm adverse to them, just don't have $2k+ to drop right now. From what I'm hearing though and from searching it seems like the coilover option is the best way to go value-wise.

Struts/springs seem to have their own issues unless you're going with a shorter front shock customized for our XI's. Then you'd have to find a good linear spring with the right rates for your needs.

Either way, I guess I just gotta start saving.
You can get KW V1's for right around $1.2k.
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I got a used set of V3's for $800. No need to spend $2,000+
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+1 for KW v1s. Most people don't need the extra adjustability. I absolutely love mine.
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+1 for KW v1s. Most people don't need the extra adjustability. I absolutely love mine.
Agreed.

Only grabbed the V3's because someone was selling them for an insane price.
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I would save your money for coils. it is worth it. V1 if you don't need any adjust-ability besides height. I personally like to dial everything in so I only want to do either V3, H&R or ISC coils depending on the price I can get the V3.
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If you just want to get rid of the understeer then look at an upgraded rear swaybar. I haven't done one yet, but that will be my first mod to the suspension. I am pretty happy with how the car handles except that it pushes too much (sport suspension). The push isn't bad for an AWD car, but I like it very close to neutral.
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