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      03-22-2013, 01:20 PM   #1
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How do I check if they put the larger wheels in the back?

I bought my 328i sport package used. It had all the same size tires when it should have had staggered. Dunno if the dealership just threw something on before selling it or what. I am about to buy new tires and wanted to know if I could put the staggered tires on there or not.
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look at the width of each tire...if they widths of each tire is different (front to back) then yes you can. If not I would suggest keeping the same size tires.

you could run wider tires in the back even if the tires are the same size. But I would go no bigger then one size wider
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look at the width of each tire...if they widths of each tire is different (front to back) then yes you can. If not I would suggest keeping the same size tires.

you could run wider tires in the back even if the tires are the same size. But I would go no bigger then one size wider
The width of the tires are the same because the person who had the car had the car or sold the car pulled the stock staggered tires and put square tires on the car. My car is a ZSP sport package. I just don't know if he pulled the sport rims

Oh you mean the width of the rim?
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      03-22-2013, 02:23 PM   #4
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The tire size on there now is 225/45 and the computer says non sport package is 205/55

Says staggered is 225/45 and 225/40
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      03-22-2013, 02:28 PM   #5
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I'm pretty sure the sport pack cars come with 'Staggered Wheels'

Staggered means the rears are wider than the front, thus the staggered fitment between front and back. If it has stock (sport) wheels you'll want different size tires.

If it has stock (base) wheels it will be a 'square' set-up and you got ripped out of a nice set of wheels. Easiest way to tell is look at the width of the tire between the front and back and see if they look the same and fit the same. Or you could just measure the wheel width, which is a little more involved.


I certainly hope you got your deserved sport wheels!

EDIT: Just saw your post, 225 is the width, 40 is the thickness of the sidewall. That setup is not 'staggered' in the traditional sense.
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I'm pretty sure the sport pack cars come with 'Staggered Wheels'

Staggered means the rears are wider than the front, thus the staggered fitment between front and back. If it has stock (sport) wheels you'll want different size tires.

If it has stock (base) wheels it will be a 'square' set-up and you got ripped out of a nice set of wheels. Easiest way to tell is look at the width of the tire between the front and back and see if they look the same and fit the same. Or you could just measure the wheel width, which is a little more involved.


I certainly hope you got your deserved sport wheels!

EDIT: Just saw your post, 225 is the width, 40 is the thickness of the sidewall. That setup is not 'staggered' in the traditional sense.
I dunno maybe that is what they mean by staggerd on the e90 sports package. When I go back out there I will see what the door jam sticker says.. I know my tires do not match what the door jam sticker says.
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Hrmmm. Post pics of your wheels, I'm sure we can help you figure this out. Playing with this stuff is tricky because anyone can put weird size tires or weirder size wheels.
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I have a 2008 328i with Sport Package. She came with style 161 rims - 8.0"x17" front sporting 225/45ZR17 tires, and 8.5"x17" rear sporting 255/40ZR17 tires. AFAIK this is the stock config for my car.

For winter, I ran a square setup of 225/45ZR17 all around, using her stock rims. So it's possible that you have the staggered rims, but someone went and put a square set of tires on them. Or you could just have a square rim/tire setup. Either way, it's supposed to be staggered on the Sport suspension.

Hope that helps.

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Hrmmm. Post pics of your wheels, I'm sure we can help you figure this out. Playing with this stuff is tricky because anyone can put weird size tires or weirder size wheels.
Same wheel all the way around with 225/45 on it.. my door jam says I should have 225/45 and 225/40

I was reading staggered wheels can go back to square wheels with the same rims...

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Ill post a pic from a distance of front and back when I get back
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those are wheels on a non-sport package e90. all sport package wheels are 18s and 19s (for both e92 and e90).
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Looks like you got ripped off my friend.

Side question: Why would BMW recommend different sidewalls on same size wheels? Then you can't rotate wheels properly...
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those are wheels on a non-sport package e90. all sport package wheels are 18s and 19s (for both e92 and e90).
Not so. My 2008 328i came with staggered 17" rims (style 161) stock.

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I've never so confused in my WHOLE LIFE
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Looks like you got ripped off my friend.

Side question: Why would BMW recommend different sidewalls on same size wheels? Then you can't rotate wheels properly...
I'm thinking it was typo, and he meant 255/40 for the rears.

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I'm thinking it was typo, and he meant 255/40 for the rears.

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Yeah I did.
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Not so. My 2008 328i came with staggered 17" rims (style 161) stock.

Cheers!
So those rims could be the right rims??
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So those rims could be the right rims??
It's possible. I don't know what style they are or if they're correct for the year/model you have. However, if they're staggered (rear wider than front), they're at least the right type of replacement, if they're not original.

When you look at the sidewalls, do the tires on the rear rims look more stretched out than the fronts?

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225/255 sounds better. And order is restored to the world.
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Not so. My 2008 328i came with staggered 17" rims (style 161) stock.

Cheers!
style 161 wheels are staggered?? LOL! oh well, I didn't know that.

regardless, those (OP's) are not the wheels that come on a sport package e9x.
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style 161 wheels are staggered?? LOL! oh well, I didn't know that.

regardless, those (OP's) are not the wheels that come on a sport package e9x.
Well I guess that is why my speed is off a tad.
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style 161 wheels are staggered?? LOL! oh well, I didn't know that.

regardless, those (OP's) are not the wheels that come on a sport package e9x.
Indeed, the 161s are staggered.

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