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      03-23-2013, 04:51 PM   #1
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Alpine B3 TCU Flash on Diesel 6AT

Anyone knows of that would work on our transmission?

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      03-24-2013, 02:30 AM   #2
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I don't think it is, although I wish that isn't true. The 335i's and 335d's seem to have a different transmission code, although I could be wrong (I hope I am in this case). I would like to do the Alpina B3 code.
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      03-24-2013, 06:08 AM   #3
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Not possible for M57N2

Diesel has ATM GA6HP26Z,

Petrol GA6HP19Z
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      03-24-2013, 07:48 AM   #4
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I am aware our tranny is different wondered if there is similar mod for us.
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I am aware our tranny is different wondered if there is similar mod for us.
Yes I understabd, I didn't hear about it.
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      03-25-2013, 07:37 AM   #6
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welcome back DOC my IC is working GREATT!!! sent graphs o RENNtech
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I wanted to bump this older thread and see if anyone knew of an alpina b3 flash for our E90 US 335d
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      07-09-2013, 10:24 AM   #8
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The guy that did my coding confirmed that the Alpina flash will not work on the 335d.

It's so good though!
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      07-09-2013, 12:20 PM   #9
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Diesel has ATM GA6HP26Z,

Petrol GA6HP19Z
The main difference on those 2 are the torque converter.
Looking at the specs from ZF, it looks like the rest of the tranny is the same....
Actually I just found proof that the gear ratio is the same on both trannys.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1m8y5ozkxn...21_Catalog.pdf
https://www.dropbox.com/s/stnvbcjv62...on%206HP28.pdf
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      07-09-2013, 12:40 PM   #10
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the second link is for a 6hp28, not 6hp26, and it shows a max input tq of 442 lb-ft.

I believe that the ratios are the same, but the transmission internals are different. The diff ratio is different also which would affect shift points. I wouldnt want to load a transmission map for a car with a 7k rpm redline into my car with 5k rpm redline
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Found another PDF with both hp26 and hp28
Same ratio....
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8ycq174bxu...28_Catalog.pdf
and as far as I can see only 4 internal parts differs from 26 to 28(chart on page 31 and 32)
And of course the torque converter differs.
So basically the same tranny.....
But of course as you wrote the diff is different....
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How about the Alpina D3 AT transmission then? With the B3 flash I'd think that the rev limits and torque curves, if the have effect, would be completely wrong.
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Just flashed a local member's 335i with the B3 flash tonight and i got thinking about this. Didn't Alpina make a B5 which used the 6HP26? I started looking through the daten for an E60 and saw a few references.

If anyone could get their hands on a B5 and get the necessary info, we could probably just use that flash in the 335d.

From what I can see by viewing the flash files, GKE195 is for the 6HP26TU. If I had my car here with me I would just read it myself to find out. It would help to find out exactly which flash(es) may have been used for the B5.

If anyone has a DCAN cable + WinKFP and would like to push this theory along, could you read the UIF for GKE195 and post up the flash history? Otherwise I will look into this further on Monday when I get my car back.

This is all purely hypothetical, but i would love to see it happen.
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      01-11-2014, 01:17 PM   #14
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I remember that later model 335d's tranny can take up to 516Lb/ft
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Getting closer... found this while looking in the E60 daten for the B5 flash.. This is one of the programs for the 6HP26TU.

;============================================
;Freigabe: ZF GETRIEBE GMBH
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;;Z_Stand: 21.06.2007
;;Z_File-Name: T441W003_uns.hex
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;;ZA_Bearbeiter: Berrang, Joachim
;;ZA_Abteilung: EAA1
;;ZA_Telefon: 0681/920-2773
;;ZA_Freigabedatum: 21.06.2007
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;;Software-Entwicklung
;;ZS_Bearbeiter: Ott
;;ZS_Abteilung: TE-HI
;;ZS_Telefon: 07541/77-7715
;;ZS_Freigabedatum: 21.06.2007
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;;EOL-Programmierung
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;;Z_V2: Alpina B5 N62B44 ECE
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I remember that later model 335d's tranny can take up to 516Lb/ft
Confirmed.. My 09 copes with 520lb/ft
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Change of plans. After consideration of how the B5 program may be configured, I'm going the E60 Sport AT route. It sounds like the exact same thing, just not branded Alpina. Also it was available for diesels so it won't expect to shift at 6k

Car is still at the dealer awaiting an SCR pump, so i haven't made much other progress.
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i hv a friend that deals in europe and he has a 525d and he told me we both have the same tranny, he was able to install the Alpina Flash on his car and is going to install on my car later on, it can and will work according to him but until I have it on my hands I cannot vouch for it.
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Axel,

Can you see if he is able to read the UIF for his transmission? If so we can use a similar process to the 335i's for their Alpina flash.

I'm itching to get mine back just so I can read that number and make progress on this.
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i hv a friend that deals in europe and he has a 525d and he told me we both have the same tranny, he was able to install the Alpina Flash on his car and is going to install on my car later on, it can and will work according to him but until I have it on my hands I cannot vouch for it.
Im very interested in this, keep us updated Amigo
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I've got a cable and a computer. Tell me what I'm looking for and how to get to it and I'll report back. I too would like the alpina flash to my transmission.
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