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      03-24-2013, 02:17 PM   #1
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I'm so disappointed for red bull and Mercedes for today's race. When I watching race I watching individual race, but not team race. What RB and Mercedes done today is not acceptable. Let drivers to race to the END. Not cruising.
Lets fit all F1 with active cruise control. Who fastest in qualifying he will win race. And everyone will just cruise along. No crashes. No argument between drivers.
I'm pist off. Berne do something.
Red bull and Mercedes LET A DRIVERS TO RACE.
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You clearly watched a very different race to me and seem to miss the point of F1. For joe Public it is about individuals racing, for everyone involved in F1 it is about the team.
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Newey, Horner and Mark all looked a pretty cheesed off with Vettel. The few minutes before the podium where vettel & newey exchanged words were quite revealing. Newey, whilst very professional and diplomatic, appeared to be very unimpressed.
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You clearly watched a very different race to me and seem to miss the point of F1. For joe Public it is about individuals racing, for everyone involved in F1 it is about the team.
That's way I like to watch because I'm from public. Because we paying sky and bbc to watch race and they paying F1 to show to us.
When you staing in 5* hotel you expect perfect service and we expect when we watching race. A race from everyone
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They are not paying the teams they pay Bernie or more importantly FOM who own the rights to broadcast F1. Vettel ignored team orders and raced Mark, i dont get what you are complaining about from Red Bulls race? Mercedes , yes.
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the team orders used to annoy me, the schuey/massa incidents were entertainment low points fo sure. didn't really bother me today though.
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It seemed a case of two impatient Germans lol. One followed orders, one didn't. The latter is a triple world champion and maybe that's why he is, willing to win no matter what. I feel sorry for Mark and Nico.
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You clearly watched a very different race to me and seem to miss the point of F1. For joe Public it is about individuals racing, for everyone involved in F1 it is about the team.
You're missing the point of F1. If it wasn't for 'joe public' then there'd be no team or F1.

It's always been about individuals. That's why people talk about past champions and rarely past constructors champions.
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It seemed a case of two impatient Germans lol. One followed orders, one didn't. The latter is a triple world champion and maybe that's why he is, willing to win no matter what. I feel sorry for Mark and Nico.
Its in their nature to win at all costs. That is what gets them to the top of their game i suppose. Did you hear Brawns answer when questioned about Nico and Lewis?
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They are not paying the teams they pay Bernie or more importantly FOM who own the rights to broadcast F1. Vettel ignored team orders and raced Mark, i dont get what you are complaining about from Red Bulls race? Mercedes , yes.
It's not RB is all teams when they saying to drivers to switch active cruise control. And cruise along.
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If it wasn't for 'joe public' then there'd be no team or F1.
I didnt say that there would i said that you lot view it as a individuals race when it isnt. The teams get nothing for winning the drivers title.
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It's not RB is all teams when they saying to drivers to switch active cruise control. And cruise along.
Not going to get into it with you as you have no understanding of how F1 works.
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It seemed a case of two impatient Germans lol. One followed orders, one didn't. The latter is a triple world champion and maybe that's why he is, willing to win no matter what. I feel sorry for Mark and Nico.
Its in their nature to win at all costs. That is what gets them to the top of their game i suppose. Did you hear Brawns answer when questioned about Nico and Lewis?
Different from Lewis could be driving faster as well if he wasn't fuel saving?

I agree about it being in their nature. Moves like that win championships. Many a champion have made/had controversies in a season.
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You're missing the point of F1. If it wasn't for 'joe public' then there'd be no team or F1.

It's always been about individuals. That's why people talk about past champions and rarely past constructors champions.
Think i may have slightly more insight into how F1 works than you
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Different from Lewis could be driving faster as well if he wasn't fuel saving?

I agree about it being in their nature. Moves like that win championships. Many a champion have made/had controversies in a season.
Lewis would not have been in the position he was without running a higher map setting, thats why he had to switch to a lower map [ fuel saving] to get to the end. I think Nico managed the fuel better and should have been allowed to race Lewis. I also agree with what Seb did although it could have cost us points if they had come together.
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It's not RB is all teams when they saying to drivers to switch active cruise control. And cruise along.
Not going to get into it with you as you have no understanding of how F1 works.
Ok
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Sparky68 it's everyone's opinion.
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Yes it is, opinions are just that though. When answered with facts it becomes a incorrect one.

Like you i am a fan first and part of a team second, but that does not change the fact it is a team sport and sometimes the drivers do what is best for the team.
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I didnt say that there would i said that you lot view it as a individuals race when it isnt. The teams get nothing for winning the drivers title.
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Lol at your patronising comments. Trying to Lord it up much?

Why have a drivers championship then if it's all about the team? No need for knowing the drivers names if it's about the team. Or having a podium. Just have someone generic from the team (like yourself) to pick up the trophy.
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Did it come across as patronising, wasnt meant to.
Its regarded as a team sport and always has been due to the fact that the teams pay for it , not the drivers.

Drivers come and go and are a employee like everyone else. Its a team of 500 people not 2 drivers.
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