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      03-29-2013, 10:52 PM   #23
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OP, 63K on a N52 is nothing. It would be totally stupid to sell a car that you have paid off with only 62K on it. The N52 easily go 200,000 without much maintenance or repair. So you'll go buy a new car at $40,000 to avoid repairs of maybe $8,000 for the next 140,000 miles. Does that make sense to you?
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      03-29-2013, 11:00 PM   #24
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Never trade a car in, sell it on craigs list you get way more like 1 - 2K more. Trade in value is where the dealer makes the money.
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OP, 63K on a N52 is nothing. It would be totally stupid to sell a car that you have paid off with only 62K on it. The N52 easily go 200,000 without much maintenance or repair. So you'll go buy a new car at $40,000 to avoid repairs of maybe $8,000 for the next 140,000 miles. Does that make sense to you?
The car is just broken in, these go 200,000 with little problems.
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It's paid off.

Just drive and enjoy.

Worry about future problems later.
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      03-30-2013, 06:37 AM   #27
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The car is just broken in, these go 200,000 with little problems.
Sure do, I'm at 209K. It runs just as good as the day I bought it.

I should have been clear previously; $8,000 for repairs AND maintenance including tires, brakes, fluid changes, etc. OP - Keep it. If you are worried about repairs, then just take half of the money you'd spend on new car payments and bank it (or invest it) for your maintenance and repairs fund. Simple. If you get that easily bored with a 3-series, then any car you get you will get bored with eventually. Cars like the BMW 3-series are transportation tools not toys. It is an investment in a consumable device to provide yourself transportation, you should get the maximum value out of it.

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      03-30-2013, 07:22 AM   #28
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      03-30-2013, 08:23 AM   #29
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my 2006 330i sport / prem was purchased 3 years ago with 48K CPO. It's just past 90k and I have not had 1 issue in 3 years...it's unreal. I do my own oil changes, just had the manual trans fluid and spark plugs replaced 6 months ago, that's it in 3 years! I plan on keeping this N52 for a very long time. Throw on a set of coilovers, it's a great compliment to any bmw looks and performance wise.
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It is one thing if you have an itch to change, but otherwise you are in a sweet spot $-wise if you keep your car for 1-2 years more. Just bank 150$/mo in anticipation of repairs/maintenance normally covered by BMW (not tires). Since May 2011, I banked 3600$ and spent 2600$.
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I was looking at trading in my 328i with 76k mile for an M3. The dealer offered 15,000. They are trying to rob you with the 9600 offer.
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stay calm and just learn to do the maintenance yourself with the help of this forum. 2006 e90 130k still runnin' and gunnin' .N52 is a solid 300k motor. keep it till it falls apart
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stay calm and just learn to do the maintenance yourself with the help of this forum. 2006 e90 130k still runnin' and gunnin' .N52 is a solid 300k motor. keep it till it falls apart
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      03-30-2013, 01:38 PM   #34
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I agree that 63k is nothing. These cars are solid, especially if you have been doing proper maintenance. The only thing that I would be worried for repair is the water pump and aside from that, there is not much else that can go wrong.

Just some food for thought. 9-10.5k is a joke from the dealer i would hold on to it for that
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      03-30-2013, 03:52 PM   #35
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Keep it and have fun with it. Get an AA tune to add a bit of performance and enjoy the fact that you're just about at the best price/performance/reliability ratio that modern BMW offers. This is also a really bad time to buy a G37 since they'll have a new model coming out soon.
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      03-30-2013, 06:31 PM   #36
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Your car is paid off. The cash you save by not having a car payment can be spent on other things. Issues are going to come up regardless of what kind of car you own, albeit, a BMW might be a little more costly. Unless you start leasing and trading in every 3 years, you're going to have to do major maintenance at some point. $1500 in maintenance every 3,4,5, hell maybe even 10 years, is cheaper in the long run as opposed to constantly be financing. But I get how you feel about not being excited about your car any more. In a way, age plays a factor. I'm by no means old (turned 30 this year) but I had the speed itch and honestly, it's going to get that way for any car you own, until you get sick of the financing or just want a reliable car that you can enjoy driving. Owning a car outright is a great accomplishment these days. Leasing (to me) is a huge waste of money.

One more thing, don't trust the dealership to tell you what your car is worth. They'll obviously low-ball you so they can make a profit if you decide to trade to them and they sell. I would venture to guess that your car is worth at least $13K if they're telling you $10K. Use KBB or Edmunds for a fair value and start there.
Yeah. If you were planning on trading in, I'd make sure to seem pretty uninterested in the car and make them work for your trade. I went in to a Jeep dealership to look at an e92 M3, and of course it was a photo of a 335, but after an email they confirmed they indeed had the M3. When I got to the dealership, nobody knew where the car was and after making me walk all over the lot they deemed it was sold. Right. I tried to leave but then they decided to try and sell one of the employees e46 m3 convertible. I told him I wouldn't mind an e46, but its SMG and a vert, no thanks. He then asked if i'd trade in and I said no. He told me to name a price and I said I'd be willing to part for 17k. He then wanted to shake my hand.

Not sure if he was willing to agree with that number because I didn't hardcore negotiate the car yet, or he just doesn't know, but kbb only has my car at like 12-13 at best.

Its an e90 328 2007 with (at the time) 75k miles, premium, non sport, with idrive. Thats it.

Long story short, maybe get into an e46 m3? It was super fun to drive, but I'd assume the maintenance would be hard to swallow. I guess I don't know...
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      03-30-2013, 08:59 PM   #37
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Hey guys. I think it's almost time for me to say goodbye to my 328i. It's coming up on 63k miles and I'm pretty worried about replacement parts for it within the next year or two. Last weekend I took it to the dealership that sold it to me and they valued it at $9,000-$10,500. I'm sure I can get a bit more if I private sell it.

One of the employees there warned me about maintenance problems that could come up soon. I'm out of the warranty, and yes, I have the option to buy the extended warranty, but to be honest I'm getting a little bored of my car too. It's fun and all going for a nice drive, but I don't feel as excited in it anymore. Not not manual and the steptronic only makes it fun for a few minutes before the lag gets to me. I don't know what else to mod to make it more fun besides pouring in money for a few cosmetic enhancements and little performance gains...

I was thinking of getting the G37S. The Infiniti dealership near me just doesn't have any on the lot right now. On the bright side, my 328i is paid off. Sometimes I just wish I could find an M3 engine and put it in there, but I've seen how people say it's totally NOT worth the trouble.

Not sure what to do here guys. There seems like nothing I can do to make my car sentimentally worth hanging on to. Any car suggestions that can replace my 328i if I do decide to sell it?
At 63k, I'd say that you don't have much to worry about if you've kept the car up-to-date with maintenance. Based off of personal experience, I'd say you're in the range for potential water pump/t-stat failure which I've encountered shortly before hitting 70k and others have long passed the 100k mark with no issues. Other than that I haven't experienced anything worth mentioning. Since you've already paid off your car, I would probably just keep it for a while and get to know the car better before selling it and you never know by the end of that time frame it might be that much harder to let go.
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      03-31-2013, 12:10 PM   #38
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I agree that 63k is nothing. These cars are solid, especially if you have been doing proper maintenance. The only thing that I would be worried for repair is the water pump and aside from that, there is not much else that can go wrong.

Just some food for thought. 9-10.5k is a joke from the dealer i would hold on to it for that
That's the point. The T-stat and water pump repair at an Indy should cost $800. Would you go buy a $40,000 new car just because you know at some point you'll need to spend $800? Save the cash for that as a repair. The other stuff is maintenance and consumables items, which any car will have. BMW's maintenance isn't free, you are just paying for it up front.

The point is, the N52 just doesn't catastrophically break and cost tens of thousands to repair. My last 3-series was a 1989 E30 325i. That car had more repair issues to 200,000 miles than my current E90 325i has had to 200,000 miles. I owned both since new and did almost all the repairs DIY and did all the maintenance DIY on both.

Keep your car and learn to enjoy it. I suggest that if it doesn't have a performance suspension, then get a nice suspension install and a wheel/tire upgrade, you'll like the car much better.
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Like a lot of the guys have suggested, keep your ride and enjoy having no more payments since you paid it off. BMW's are great cars, so long as you do your part and maintain it to keep it at or near 100% as best you can. Join a BMW club, hang with other enthusiasts and see how fast your love for your Bimmer will be rekindled! BMW POWER!!!
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Hey guys. I think it's almost time for me to say goodbye to my 328i. It's coming up on 63k miles and I'm pretty worried about replacement parts for it within the next year or two. Last weekend I took it to the dealership that sold it to me and they valued it at $9,000-$10,500. I'm sure I can get a bit more if I private sell it.

One of the employees there warned me about mainenance problems that could come up soon. I'm out of the warranty, and yes, I have the option to buy the extended warranty, but to be honest I'm getting a little bored of my car too. It's fun and all going for a nice drive, but I don't feel as excited in it anymore. Not not manual and the steptronic only makes it fun for a few minutes before the lag gets to me. I don't know what else to mod to make it more fun besides pouring in money for a few cosmetic enhancements and little performance gains...

I was thinking of getting the G37S. The Infiniti dealership near me just doesn't have any on the lot right now. On the bright side, my 328i is paid off. Sometimes I just wish I could find an M3 engine and put it in there, but I've seen how people say it's totally NOT worth the trouble.

Not sure what to do here guys. There seems like nothing I can do to make my car sentimentally worth hanging on to. Any car suggestions that can replace my 328i if I do decide to sell it?
Sounds like they're talking you into trading. Giving you a low offer and telling you that it's going to be costly to own in the long run. What a bunch of BS. They'd flip that car on their lot and it would sell for 20K. That employee was just getting you to trade in. I bet he doesn't even own a BMW. Take the advice from ACTUAL 328i owners here on the forum as stop letting dealers convince you to give away your car to them.
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      03-31-2013, 01:42 PM   #41
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Those numbers don't sound right. If the car is in good condition, the value should be more.
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There is a similar car like yours down the street from me. It's a private lot...

The car is moderately loaded, 65k miles 07 328. They have a $13700 price tag on it.
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They low balled you like crazy. Depending on what features and mods you have, I wouldnt be surprised if you could private party sell your car in the $15k range. I just picked up an E90 '07 328xi w/ 59k miles for $14.5k from a private dealer- and after searching nationwide for over a month- that was a steal.

You'll find higher mileage '07 335's in the high teens and the lower end 2006/07 3 series models with lower miles in the mid teens. If you had 150k miles on the odo, then it'd be closer to the $10k range.
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OP: Why are you setting your sights so low?

save the money that you would have used to pay monthly payment, and use that for any repairs that may arise on your 328i. once you have saved enough (you will be surprised how quickly that grows if left alone), you will have enough down payment (or even just pay in cash!!!) for an even better car than a G37s. Like...l M3.... Boxter / Cayman... or whatever new model comes our way.
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