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      04-18-2013, 05:51 AM   #1
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325d or 330d?

Hi all,

As a result of a change in my driving style, I am contemplating changing to a diesel auto. I currently own a 320d M-Sport Coupe Highline in manual form and love it to bits – good balance of performance, economy!

Part of me says to wait for the 4 Series Coupe, but I’m not sure if I’m warming to it at the moment. I think the current 3 Series Coupe (in both pre-LCI and LCI guise) is the best shaped BMW to date. It just looks perfect from whichever angle you look at. For this reason I’m thinking to go for a LCI E92 Coupe.
Secondary to that, I’ve heard that the 6 cylinder diesel variants are not that bad, when it comes to ‘real’ fuel economy. For this reason I’m looking at either a 325d or 330d in LCI/nearly new form.

I’ve read up about these and can’t find anything but good things about the engines. Is there anything that I should look out for in particular?

Also I will test drive both for my own judgement, but which one is the one to go for.

Finally, what is the diesel auto’s like? Are they sluggish/slow or just right? I drive responsibly most of the times, but would like to keep the option open for having a bit of a spirited drive every now and again

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      04-18-2013, 06:10 AM   #2
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Well, it has to be the 330d - the economy isn't much different but the performance is!

The only time I would say go for the 325 is if you either can't afford to buy or run the 330, or if you are going to remap the car, in which case, if you get one of the later 325s, the mapped output is exactly the same as the 330.

As for being sluggish.....er....NO! The 330d is as quick, if not quicker than the likes of the Golf R32 etc and the Auto doesn't really slow it down, apart from off the line, but even then, it still takes off very well.
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      04-18-2013, 07:21 AM   #3
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I've had an LCI 330d e92 for over 2 years now after numerous cars in a short'ish period of time and love it. 325d is fun but 330d far more punchy and seems no worse off on mpg.

I have had no issues with mine whatsoever ... And have got between 36mpg and 52mpg. My 320d only gave 38-50 ... On the same journeys ! The LCI 330d is 6 to 60 and in no way slow ... Quicker than focus st, golf Gti, etc.

Auto really suits the car ... Try one and you will love it. The 330d is only .1 sec slower to 60 than a 335d ... Though that is quicker between 60-100. As I don't use that area much the difference wasn't worth buying the 335d with it's worse fuel economy.
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      04-18-2013, 07:51 AM   #4
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Agree with the above. 330d LCI is a great car. If you can afford the LCI stick with that as its quicker than the pre-LCI (I've had both).

Mine is a manual so cant comment on an auto but at 13K miles, nicely run in now and goes well.

I expect someone will be along in a sec to say why not a 335d? As said above, 335d is a lot more money for not a great deal more peformance (well, since the 330d LCI came along)!

But get the 330d. If you got a 325d, you be kicking yourself thinking "what if...." . The 330d LCI comes with the same brakes as the 335i/335d and not sure if the 325d does.
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      04-18-2013, 08:26 AM   #5
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330d simples. If your looking to keep the car 6 cylinders are more trustworthy than 4!

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      04-18-2013, 08:28 AM   #6
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And get a manual!
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      04-18-2013, 09:29 AM   #7
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I looked at 325's and 330d's before i purchased the 330d. I'm glad i got the 330d as it returns good MPG and it has loads of go. Also got a manual, which is nice.
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      04-18-2013, 09:30 AM   #8
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Thanks for the Responses! Just what I wanted to here. Two weeks ago I actually put an offer on a full spec, Space Grey 325d LCI auto. It was the cheapest in the country, mint and very low miles. The dealer and I couldn’t agree on a fair, cost to change price (PX’ing mine in).

It has since got sold and was gutted this didn’t work out. I now can only find 330d’s which are a little more dearer! The 325d also seems rarer to find!

I’ve been happy with the 320d, so naturally the next step up (for a change) is a 325d. However, having missed the previous one, I’m now wondering that the 330d auto is the best route – as the 325d may leave something to be left desired.
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      04-18-2013, 10:59 AM   #9
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Go for the 330d, as they are the same engine anyway, but to be fair the 330d will hold its money better. I don't regret buying mine and in the real world I get 44mpg on the combined mixed driving and 49mpg on a run.

The 6 cylinders are very well suited to the auto box as well.
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      04-18-2013, 11:08 AM   #10
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I decided to go for a 325d instead of the 330d, as it was the only one I could find with cream interior and in my price range!

In all fairness, I think you'd be far from disapointed with either of them!

I sometimes wish I had bought a 330d, just for the sake of it. But 90% of the time I don't even use all the power I do have anyway, so I don't think I could really justify the price increase to of had the 330d
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      04-18-2013, 11:13 AM   #11
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330d like everyone else has said

I would go auto too if I was you, "Drive" for nice eco drives, nice MPG returns

Then stick it in "Drive Sport", engage paddle shift for the less eco drives

Ive had a 325D manual, 330D manual and 330D auto with paddle shift
The auto is the winner for me, hence why I kept it!
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      04-18-2013, 12:19 PM   #12
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If i had the choice i would buy a 330D, great car and keep up with most things on the road. I even had some fun with a CL66 AMG. (He was just playing with me)

I think i have the pre LCI 330D coupe and it's a great car to drive. I'm getting about 38 mpg on 99.999% motorway with 99.9999 spirited driving

Not sure about the paddle shifts as they seem to take forever to select a gear.
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      04-18-2013, 02:17 PM   #13
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I had a Golf GTI with the amazing DSG box before my manual 330d. It was fun at first but after 6 months I got bored of it.

You really can't beat a manual box for having a fun drive
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      04-18-2013, 02:25 PM   #14
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I have an E92 330D SE LCI auto. I tried many variants, including a 325d.

The 330D LCI is both quicker and more economic than the pre LCI. I considered the 335D, but although slightly quicker, it's fuel consumption is much worse, and insurance, and two tubos, and it's not been updated since it's release about 200 years ago - so 330D is was.

The 325D is much nicer than the 320D: smoother, quieter, quicker, but nothing like the get up and go of the 245bhp 330D.

I love the auto. The latest incarnation of the 6-speed ZF box is fantastic (I wish I could have ordered the 8-speed). There is no delay using the paddles, and if you're planning your actions, a momentary delay isn't relevant anyway. As for 0-62, a manual will only beat an auto if the driver drops the clutch while holding 4000 revs. Three attempts and a new clutch.

Today I did a quick run across country - bouncy, twisty, narrow lanes going, and 44.3 mpg. The return leg was faster, smoother, still twisty, and 45.7mpg. The nice bit was managing a legal overtake past a queue of two cars, a gendarme, and two HGVs.

330D auto lci E92 - you won't regret it.
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Get the 330 man I tried to get 1 myself but every time I went after 1 it was sold ended up with a 320 but wish I got a 330 doubt I'll ever have the money to change to a 330 since I moved house at the beginning of the year.

Ya think cars swallow yr money try kitting out your dream house.
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I'm sure the 330d is great but I'll stick in my vote for my 325d manual. I've got a 2011 model so same engine as the 330d. Now it's mapped I'm getting great performance, torque and mpg. So far and from new, totally reliable with just routine servicing.
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I'm sure the 330d is great but I'll stick in my vote for my 325d manual. I've got a 2011 model so same engine as the 330d. Now it's mapped I'm getting great performance, torque and mpg. So far and from new, totally reliable with just routine servicing.
This was my point - if you map it, go 325, but otherwise, 330 all the way!
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Thanks for all the input everyone. I'll keep a look out for both but think i've been swayed towards the 330d. I'll try and get an opportunity to test drive them both regardless (only fair to do that).

Guess it just leaves me to hunt one down now at my budget. Dealers seem to be a lot more reluctant at doing something better on the price now a days. When I bought my 320d two years ago I got 2k reduced off the price - and it was a sought after colour spec/interior scheme. The best I've got from a few i've been interested in is a couple of hundred off!
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Stick with a manual 330d is my suggestion. I think I know of a good one for sale!
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Stick with a manual 330d is my suggestion. I think I know of a good one for sale!
Thats a nice looking 330D for that price.....
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Thanks for all the info. I also wanted to know, are there any associated timing chain noise problems (rattle at around 1,500rpm from the back of the engine) with the 325d or 330d n57 engines? I note that they share the same timing chain components as the n47 320d, which suffers a lot from this issue. I've read a few cases but apparently this has been fixed since 10/2010 and the one I'm looking at is a 8/2010 and the other is a 10/2010 model. Is it better to go for the one built in October?

Can anyone shed any light on this issue?
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