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      04-27-2013, 07:49 PM   #1
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Buying a CPO E90. Question about after sale items.

Buying a 2010 335ix with M Package, 31000 miles. My first BMW.

While I got a good laugh at the $700 coat of wax that will protect me against acid rain... I am curious about a couple of the items.

Maintenance: I'm covered up to the 4 years 50k miles, so extending it to the 6 years 100k miles is $2295. Is that reasonable/worth it? Am I going to spend more than that in scheduled maintenance? I would do my own oil changes after the 50k. What would be a good value on that item?

Platinum extended warranty 5yr/100k miles. $3500. I know that's a high price, but my question is don't I have until the end of the 4/50k to buy an extended warranty through BMW? There's no reason to lock that in now, right?

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      04-27-2013, 07:55 PM   #2
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Slower - I've had BMW's since 2005, and I much prefer my local ind. shop to the dealer for post-4 year maintenance. Better prices, better quality of work. Go to your regional board (http://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=46) to find a good independent shop.

I don't have a 335i (I have a 328i), so I can't speak to the reliability of your turbocharged powerplant.

Congrats on your purchase! Enjoy, and be safe on 128!
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I say no to the warranty and maintenance plan.

i had warranty plan. the only thing i used it on was a water pump.... what a waste.

Plus after 4 years-50k miles the warranty IS NOT THE SAME. meaning 175 dollar inspection charge for anything wrong, many things are not covered, and is hard for the dealer to do maintenance that is needed but not scheduled(once out of 4y50k your SA will try to squeeze every dollar out of you)
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normally you can wait until the end of the 4 years before adding the extended warranty, but im not sure if it's the same when buying used..i imagine it is.

i would get the 2 year extended warranty for your car. If the turbos blow, that's like 5-7k out of pocket. The water pump is also 1k. coils are pretty common too. it all adds up quickly.
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I would get the extended warranty if you can afford it. You can easily spend $1K in repairs at the dealership. Ask me how I know lol.
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Turbos are going to be covered under CPO to 100k miles, aren't they?
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with a 335 I would definitely extend
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Turbos are going to be covered under CPO to 100k miles, aren't they?
if it's a result of the turbo wastegates then yes. i think it's up to 82k miles.
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Buying a 2010 335ix with M Package, 31000 miles. My first BMW.

While I got a good laugh at the $700 coat of wax that will protect me against acid rain... I am curious about a couple of the items.

Maintenance: I'm covered up to the 4 years 50k miles, so extending it to the 6 years 100k miles is $2295. Is that reasonable/worth it? Am I going to spend more than that in scheduled maintenance? I would do my own oil changes after the 50k. What would be a good value on that item?

Platinum extended warranty 5yr/100k miles. $3500. I know that's a high price, but my question is don't I have until the end of the 4/50k to buy an extended warranty through BMW? There's no reason to lock that in now, right?

Thanks. Looking forward to getting involved in the forum!

Maintenance is not worth it.
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I have a 328i, so I don't know what cold go wrong with the 335i. I would think the turbo will eventually throw up all over itself, as most turbo tend to do hat, regardless of the manufacturer.

I bought my car with the extended warranty, making it a CPO. The fee I paid was $1260, so try talking them down on the price. I personally think the extended warranty is worth it, but I echo the sentiments of many here: if you need the car serviced, take it to an indie shop. The prices will be more reasonable, and most of the time they're ok with you ordering the parts and then take them in for installation. They would like to make money off you by selling you parts, but they know very well you can get them cheaper, and they have to stock the parts.
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for whatever it is worht... I just bought a CPO e90 328xi 2010 couple of weeks ago, and... it had 28k miles, and warranty until December 31 2013 (it was sold on Dec 2009, althouth everywhere it says model 2010).

I was in the same situation. I got the extended warranty for 2 additional years, after some negotiation, price is not important, but I did get it.

I do not know what might go wrong with the car... but I plan to keep the service of the car at the dealership I bought it... unless they give me reason not to.

So between maintenance, and surely something might come here or there... I assume it will pay for itself... and if not... at least I have the peace of mind that I know that I won't have to spend any extra money on the car for 3 years...

I know everybody will have his/her own opinion, this is only mine.
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I'd say no to both.

The two components on your 335 with the highest fail rate are the high pressure fuel pump and the turbos.

Both are covered under a default BMW extended warranty up to 8 years/82K miles due to a class action lawsuit.
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I think my plan is to say not to both.

But am I correct that I can reopen this negotiation of the extended warranty through BMW at a later date as long as it's before my 4yr/50k is up?
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Yes to both before the 4/50 expires.

The published discounted prices off MSRP I've seen on here is $200 for maint and $650 for BMW ext warranty.
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You have time to buy the upsell warranty/maintenance plans in the future. You will have more bargaining power before the factory warranty is up. I think u can even buy it after the factory warranty too... But not as cheap as before the warranty is up. Keep at different sales guys till u get a price u r fair with. Honestly, under 100k miles... Not much needs to be done. Use coupons from various bmw dealership websites for deals. Have dealerships price match other dealership coupons. My bmw oil changes are done every 7500 miles and i get the coupon rate of $58. Spark plugs r done every 45k miles, i buy them online for $70 and my indy installs them for $50. Brakes & rotors shouldn't cost more than $450 (I'm still on original pads with 62k miles on the clock, i am not expecting to change them under 100k miles). You will need to do brake fluid flus every 2 years time (unlimited miles) which is about $100 service with coupon.

Car battery will die at random and almost never covered under any warranty? Not even the factory warranty unless u complain a LOT. Thats about $400 for battery + install + registration (tell the car a new battery was installed).

BMW Assist TCU tends to die after 4 years, not covered by cpo, will cost $1k to replace or just stop the subscription instead.

Water pump usually dies around 60k and 80k miles. This is covered under CPO for $50, otherwise, its about $1000 for the water pump + thermostat + coolant + install. Some folks die early at about 20k miles or less... Others go on to 130k+ miles on the original pump... Just a roll of the dice.

Automatic transmission is suppose to be done at 100k, not sure when the front/rear diffs r done? Not sure when the Xdrive transfer case is done? Manual transmission is done every 30k miles i think??

Coolant i hear is for the lifetime of the pump.

HPFP is warranted for 10 years/120k miles
Turbos are warranted for 8 years/82k miles

Coils go bad randomly???
Fuel injectors go bad too, heard there was a recall too? These r pricy??
Carbon build up on intakes are common too, walnut blasting is about $400 + new gaskets for $50.

HVAC carbon filtered filters are $40, 6 screws and 5 minutes to DIY this one. Do this every one or two years.

New wiper blades, 5 minutes to DIY and i use the costco goodyear blades i get on sale for $4 (buy one/get one free).

Engine air filter, 5 minutes to DIY (5 quick release clips, lift cover, replace with new filter every 45k miles for $40, reverse to close up).

Run a fuel additive every 10k miles to clean out fuel injectors (techron or seafoam or any snake oil of ur choice).

The only insurance i would consider is the BMW wheel & tire protection (presence insurance) BUT only if u plan to keep the stock rims and stock RFT tires. Cuz i think each bent rim will be replaced and any nail/bubble in a RFT tire will get u a covered replacement new tire including mount and balancing. If u end up not liking the insurance... U can always get a prorated refund but u need to get this one at time of car purchase only... Can't be sold after the fact. Package should cost a little more then the cost of four new factory tires from Tire Rack. So after a bent soft bmw alloy wheel and a few nails... It pays for itself.

Not sure what else i missed??

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The extended warranty and CPO coverage are very similar. It is not very interesting to have both.

The maintenance plan could be a good idea, but there is not much work in the 50-75k. Probably a battery and rotors/pads, and an oil change. Whatever really.
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I really appreciate the responses guys.

Any idea what room there is to move in that wheel and tire protection price?
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