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      04-28-2013, 11:19 AM   #1
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Making my E90 335i my DD; selling E39

Well after the realization that having two cars is just too much hassle and money I've been faced with deciding which of my two BMW's to keep and use for daily use. And when I say daily use, it's not just typical 15k/yr. I use my personal car for a lot of work travel too, which total ups about 35k/yr work and personal. Hence why I have an '03 530i for work. Long story short I love my 530i M sport 5 spd manual. Just flat out one if not the best car I've ever owned. Perfect size cabin and trunk, fun to drive, ergonomics, quality of material etc. Literally my favorite car. But looking at things financially I need to pick one car and make it work to get ahead. If I drove a newer Camry or Mazda 6 or fusion I would be making money off the work lease program and just buy a new car every 4yrs. SO. After going back and forth on which to keep and which to sell I think I've decided to keep the 335i and sell the 530i. The 530i has 114k, is 10yrs old now and still has a laundry list of items that would need to be fixed if I made it my only primary car. IMO. And I made a spread sheet with mileage, and age depreciation, repairs etc. and in 2yrs & 70k from now it's the same cost to drive my 335i which is mint vs. continuing to fix up the 530i. But the repairs also cost time and effort, which is not on a spread sheet, and I still would still have a 10-12yr old car. So I wouldn't be saving much if anything by keeping the older car and selling the newer car. I either take the hit in depreciation or repairs. At least with depreciation I'm headache free and can enjoy my weekends.

The reality is I want a 5 series but a newer 5'er is too expensive to drive for DD & work purposes. It's either an older 5'er or a newer 3'er. Big, nice and old. Or smaller newer 3'er. Just the way the math works out.

Or I just sell both BMW's and buy a new normal car. Mazda 6, Accord, Fusion Etc. That way I have a brand-new car and can still make it work on paper. I still have a CPO warranty on my 335i until Aug 31 2013. I bought it in '10 with 36k from the dealer, I'm the 2nd owner and it's an '07. So at this point keeping it and driving it is a cost-effective option. it's a 6yr old car that has 45k miles, and been garaged it's entire life. It looks like it just rolled off the assembly line. So I'm losing my arse just letting it sit around anyway. A new(er) 2012 or 2013 family sedan would just make things easier and simpler in terms of repairs, maintenance and such vs the 335i. But the extra bit is worth it in my book. I'm going to keep my 313's for the track and fun weekends. I have a set of '10 185's I'm going to put some regular tires on and those will be my daily driver wheel/tire combo. Much cheaper to buy 225/45/17 tires vs staggered 18's. And damaging the 313's will hurt me. Opinions? Thoughts?
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      04-28-2013, 01:37 PM   #2
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35K miles a year? Sell both and get a Lexus...
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^Haha. Yes I've thought of it. It's mainly hwy. But I'm sure you're referring to the maintenance and reliability. Actually I was thinking about a TSX w/Auto trans. 2010+
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This all depends on what means more to you. Do you want long range comfort, or do you want athletic qualities? I find the latter is hard to give up nice you've owned a E90 of any flavor for awhile, as most cars cannot match up to it, except for maybe the new A4 Quattro. Before getting my E90, I *almost picked up an E39 530i with 64k miles, but the thought of owning a 10 year old car was a bit scary, despite its owner took meticulous care of the car, and the mileage was very low for a 2003. Damn, I love the way the E39 looks. By far the best looking BMWs ever made.

If you want long range comfort for all that driving you do, then go the Lexus route. My Dad picked up a CPO 2008 LS430 about a year ago, and it is the executive jet equivalent of a car. It is quiet, luxurious, and don't let the heft deceive you. It will slingshot you not freeway traffic no problems. In fact, it feels like it pulls harder than my 328i. The cost of ownership is insanely low. It's like owning a Camry. The oil change is a bit horrendous cost-wise, but it has a V-8.

I would also check out the GS. It is also a very nice vehicle, with sportier handling, and lots of high-tech goodies. The LS is marketed towards the elderly (not so tech savvy), but the GS is aimed at a younger crowd.

The Mazda 6, Fusion, and Accord are all nice cars, but not "BMW nice." You will probably miss the level of refinement BMW offers. I am by no means trying to be a snob, but unless you're willing to lower your expectation by a lot, you'll be disappointed. I rent cars regularly for travel, and I end up with Altimas, 6s, and Fusions regularly. Like I said, nice cars, but they're no BMWs.
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No I would not be happy with a camry, accord, etc. Just not me. I like HID's, quiet cabins, good quality cars. An Acura would be the best sweet spot. Did some research on them and man are they cheap to own. TSX or TL. Only about $2k difference between them. The GS 350 came out between the Acuras and the BMW. Of course, the BMW's came out high on the list for ownership cost. I used Edmunds and my own numbers using Kbb and reverse engineering my 2-3yr ownership.

On paper the Acuras are WAY cheaper than my 335i. The only downside is I'll have to trade my 335i in and lose a few thousand which negates the process. So it's keep my 335i or get into a TSX/TL. Doing more research and running scenarios on a spreadsheet. I'll buy a beamer down the road when I'm set. M6.
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      04-28-2013, 07:58 PM   #6
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TSX or TL.
TL not a TSX....I've owned both and the TSX if a rough ride. You'll want to upgrade the suspension. The newer TSXs have V6s now but the TL is a far superior car.
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^agreed. After looking into them the TL is the way to go. FWD, Auto, Tech package. But honestly, trading in my 335i for one will wipe away the saving. So I rather throw the dice on the German reliability. I do my own maintenance, so it's reasonable on any car I own. I'll get burned using the 335i if it breaks down out in BFE, or has a HPFP fail out of warranty.
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      04-28-2013, 09:31 PM   #8
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In 2004 I sold my 1999 528i with 35k miles for a new TL. And man did I hate that car. The road noise was too much for me, and the suspension and steering wheel were so soft I felt in an old Caddie. I sold it 2 years later when it started squeaking inside. It was disappointing.

Traded it in for a used 2004 525i and fell in love with it. I now own a 2011 335i, but looking forward to another 5er in the future.

Glad you kept your 3er!
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I think you're going to be fine. If you are meticulous about maintaining your car, it will run forever. Even the most unreliable car would last with proper maintenance. I drove my E30 325is like a rental car, but I never missed an oil change, spark plug change, or valve adjustment. It started every time, I drove the piss out of it. It was still running when I gave it away at 240k+ miles.

I like Acuras, and the TSX wagon is sexy. But I can't get over the fact that it's FWD. I hate the way FWD handles.
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I have a couple of BMW's including an M3, Z4 and my 335 that I use as my dd. I put on about 50k per year and find both this 335 and my previous dd,my 2003 330 to be great in terms of maintainance. Keep the 335!
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i own both but for a DD i prefer the E39
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addicted 2 turbo- I agree, the E39 is great for a daily driver. However I bought the car with 93k from the orignal owner in typical condition for a 10yr old E39. And it's a dark green car in central FL. So the exterior paint on top surfaces is faded. Typical of dark FL cars after 5+yrs unless you wax it regularly.

List of "Must do items" for my E39:
-Instrument Cluster pixel repair (radio was done few months ago)
-Shifter bushings
-Seat twist is begining to show on driver seat.
-1x last oil leak
-p/s hoses
-heater hoses
-airbag light is on for the passenger something. My cheap scanner doesn't exactly tell.
-Valve cover gasket is begining to seep, could easily get 15k/1y more out of it.
-Suspension. 114k and it's all original. I personally have checked everything out and cannot find any "play" in the wheels, but the shocks feel worn out at the minimum.

Optional cosmetics E39 items:
-Rocker dent from PO
-Paint on hood, roof & trunk lid
-Rear window trim
-Auto wipers don't work (calibration/sensor issue from generic glass I'm guessing)
-BBS sport wheels need re-clearcoated. They're mint, but flaking. Love these BBS wheels.


So I could do these above items and keep the E39, but that's going to cost money and TIME.


E90 items:
-Exhaust hanger is cracked from swapping the HKS out. $12 @ BMW parts store
-LR C pillar trim has some scuff marks from PO. $25 @ BMW parts store
-I will swap in a newer short clown nose compass/homelink auto dimming rearview mirror.
-I will add the factory Oil cooler setup.
-Need to get the 185 wheels put on with some cheap tires and sell/save the 313's.

As you can see the 335i needs a fraction of the items the E39 needs. And all the items the E39 need take time and money. I really want my weekends back. The million dollar question. What does a HPFP failure cost out of warranty?
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