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      05-30-2013, 11:30 PM   #1
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Does anyone else not have their pumps stop when the tank is full and it flows onto the side of the car? Every pump on Long Island never stops when the tank is full. I forgot whether they stop or not when I am in Virginia or Florida. I hope I am not the only one with the small gripe.
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Hmm strange. I always fill up until the pump stops. Then I slowly add about ~$0.50 more sometimes. Using BP off Motor Parkway.
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Only filled up 2 times as i just bought my car, but pump has stopped normally both times.
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If you listen closely, you can tell when the fuel is reaching the top of your tank. Just let go of the trigger then.
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      05-31-2013, 07:31 AM   #5
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I remember reading someplace that diesel tends to foam when filling up, so when the pump does its automatic stop, it might actually not be at its fullest due to the foam. I wish I remember where I read that.
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If you listen closely, you can tell when the fuel is reaching the top of your tank. Just let go of the trigger then.
It's what I learned to do every time already, lol.

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I remember reading someplace that diesel tends to foam when filling up, so when the pump does its automatic stop, it might actually not be at its fullest due to the foam. I wish I remember where I read that.
Diesel does foam when you fill it up at a fast rate, so I only pull the trigger halfway. It could be that I am only going halfway, making it not stop every time.

It could very well be just the pumps in Long Island. I think that the pumps I use anywhere else seem to stop when full with not spillage.
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Does anyone else not have their pumps stop when the tank is full and it flows onto the side of the car? Every pump on Long Island never stops when the tank is full. I forgot whether they stop or not when I am in Virginia or Florida. I hope I am not the only one with the small gripe.
I've had it happen a few times. Mostly at one pump that was transferring/filling very slowly. At the slow rate think it did not build up enough backpressure on just vapor to trip the stop mechanism.

What I am seeing a lot lately are worn or misshaped nozzles (from being dropped on the ground) that will not open the fill safety interlock.

Also I'm in NJ so don't pump my own fuel anyway.
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I've had it happen a few times. Mostly at one pump that was transferring/filling very slowly. At the slow rate think it did not build up enough backpressure on just vapor to trip the stop mechanism.
Yes this happened to me once at a station near my school that I never plan to visit again. It was strange that it was filling-up very slowly and when I had my back turned, diesel started overflowing and left quite a mess. I wanted to tell the gas station attendant but knew it would be futile as I probably would of gotten a shrug. Smell wasn't as bad as people say so clean-up was easy. Luckily no one was looking so I didn't lose any cool points.
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Are you making sure that the pump gets inserted fully? My first few tries I wasn't going in all the way and I had the same problem (here in DC). Try rotating the pump. Should got in a decent amount. Not "just the tip" haha
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I would be interested in knowing if anyone has ever used that little black reducer device that comes with our vehicles that you would use with the outsized truck nozzles. I use it all the time for putting other alchemy in my tank, but never for diesel fuel, although I guess I would if from a separate container. I bet that would be highly prone to overfill scenarios.
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Upon taking delivery of my 335d last night the sales advisor and I were chatting. He mentioned the other year a customer's wife could not get the nozzle in the tank. So she used the adapter. Filled it up and drove off but never made it home before breaking down.

Seems she must have been blonde. She used gas in the diesel car.

Dealer quoted ~$27k to repair. Insurance actually totalled the car.

Lesson we all know, be very careful what pump we use and WHO we lend our car to.
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      05-31-2013, 11:57 AM   #12
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I would be interested in knowing if anyone has ever used that little black reducer device that comes with our vehicles that you would use with the outsized truck nozzles.
I've used it twice - once at a Cenex station that didn't have the new nozzles (Cenex is prevalent at farmers co-ops and truck stops), and once when I wanted to get rid of a bit left in my fuel can (use it for my Kubota tractor).

Auto-cutoff doesn't work well with it for sure.
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I have used the converter piece at a truck station. Pumps there are VERY strong and it was hard just to keep it flowing without going everywhere.
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I have used the converter piece at a truck station. Pumps there are VERY strong and it was hard just to keep it flowing without going everywhere.
Good data point to know about or be reminded of. I do vaguely remember trying to use one of those mega-nozzles on my old Jetta diesel.
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Upon taking delivery of my 335d last night the sales advisor and I were chatting. He mentioned the other year a customer's wife could not get the nozzle in the tank. So she used the adapter. Filled it up and drove off but never made it home before breaking down.

Seems she must have been blonde. She used gas in the diesel car.

Dealer quoted ~$27k to repair. Insurance actually totalled the car.

Lesson we all know, be very careful what pump we use and WHO we lend our car to.
It's why I am really cautious to who I lend my car to. I brief them how to fill up, lol.
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I've had it happen twice… I attribute it to worn handles.
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I would be interested in knowing if anyone has ever used that little black reducer device that comes with our vehicles that you would use with the outsized truck nozzles. I use it all the time for putting other alchemy in my tank, but never for diesel fuel, although I guess I would if from a separate container. I bet that would be highly prone to overfill scenarios.
I have used the adapter once at a Shell station here in TX. You have to monitor your intake level because the auto-cutoff didn't work for me.

When I first purchased my D last summer, I did make the mistake of filling up at a Racetrac and I didn't insert the pump all the way, thus resulting in overflow and loss of cool points. Luckily no one saw...I don't think.
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You guys are fortunate to have cool points to lose.
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And yes, I always keep my hand on the trigger near when I expect it to be filling up and listen to it. When I hear it start to gurgle, I let the trigger go and I dont have this problem any more.
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I have used the adapter once at a Shell station here in TX. You have to monitor your intake level because the auto-cutoff didn't work for me.

When I first purchased my D last summer, I did make the mistake of filling up at a Racetrac and I didn't insert the pump all the way, thus resulting in overflow and loss of cool points. Luckily no one saw...I don't think.
What were you doing, racing big rigs? Why would a race track have diesel?
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I have used the adapter once at a Shell station here in TX. You have to monitor your intake level because the auto-cutoff didn't work for me.

When I first purchased my D last summer, I did make the mistake of filling up at a Racetrac and I didn't insert the pump all the way, thus resulting in overflow and loss of cool points. Luckily no one saw...I don't think.
What were you doing, racing big rigs? Why would a race track have diesel?
Didn't you know we race everything here in TX?

Racetrac is an "affordable" fuel station chain here in TX along with the likes of QT. (quick trip).
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Diesel does foam when you fill it up at a fast rate, so I only pull the trigger halfway. It could be that I am only going halfway, making it not stop every time.
I think this is most likely the cause of your issue. I'd try filling up at a station you had problems at wide open and see if it's better. I'm pretty sure all ULS highway diesel has anti-foaming agents in it and the little foam that is generated settles pretty quickly.
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