E90Post
 


Extreme Power House
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N57 / M57 Turbo Diesel Discussions - 335d > Run Flat Woes



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-02-2013, 10:55 AM   #1
OILPowered
Private
 
Drives: '11 335d
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Orange County, CA

Posts: 61
iTrader: (0)

Had a shi**y morning on Monday where I found a nice nail in my rear tire followed by getting a speeding ticket. Since the latter is purely my fault, I am choosing to complain about the former:

I visited my local America's Tire and they informed me the Conti SSR can't be repaired per Conti. I'm already not a fan of these tires and have to shell out $250 to replace it. From my research, the tire can probably be repaired as the nail was in the center of the tread and the pressure only went as low as 30lbs (this pressure triggered my TPMS light). However after several calls around to some other places, I can't find a place that will plug/patch it.

Considered replacing all 4 with some conventional Michelin S Sports, but since the Contis only have 9500 miles on them, I felt like I was throwing out the baby with the bath water.

Seems like a bit of a racket that Conti and a few other RF manufacturers require replacement on a likely perfectly repairable tire.
OILPowered is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-02-2013, 10:58 AM   #2
geko29
Second Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2011 335d
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Illinois, USA

Posts: 241
iTrader: (2)

I bought my d with 9700 miles, and binned the stock Contis less than 2 months later. They're the most awful tires I've ever had, and I'm not sorry I "wasted" the treadlife.
__________________
geko29 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-02-2013, 11:22 AM   #3
335dFan
Jumping Jack Flash
 
335dFan's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 335d
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Oregon (near Portland)

Posts: 1,023
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by OILPowered
Had a shi**y morning on Monday where I found a nice nail in my rear tire followed by getting a speeding ticket. Since the latter is purely my fault, I am choosing to complain about the former:

I visited my local America's Tire and they informed me the Conti SSR can't be repaired per Conti. I'm already not a fan of these tires and have to shell out $250 to replace it. From my research, the tire can probably be repaired as the nail was in the center of the tread and the pressure only went as low as 30lbs (this pressure triggered my TPMS light). However after several calls around to some other places, I can't find a place that will plug/patch it.

Considered replacing all 4 with some conventional Michelin S Sports, but since the Contis only have 9500 miles on them, I felt like I was throwing out the baby with the bath water.

Seems like a bit of a racket that Conti and a few other RF manufacturers require replacement on a likely perfectly repairable tire.
I have 4 OEM Conti for sale. Could tide you over. They have 8794 miles. But they are 225/45-17.
__________________
Mods-Etc: Quaife LSD w/VAC finned diff cover, M3 Rear SF Bushings, M3 sways & OEM Susp Front/Rear Cmpnt Kits ('cept strut brace), GC Caster/Camber Plates, AC Schnitzer M3 Sport Springs, JRZ RS1 dampers, JBD 100%, Goodrich SS brake lines, non-stggrd APEX ARC-8 18" wheels with Michelin PSS tires (winter OEM 17" wheels and Blizzak LM-25).
335dFan is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      05-02-2013, 11:31 AM   #4
crazyinp
Lieutenant
 
Drives: BMW 335d
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bay Area

Posts: 550
iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2011 BMW 335d  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by OILPowered View Post
Had a shi**y morning on Monday where I found a nice nail in my rear tire followed by getting a speeding ticket. Since the latter is purely my fault, I am choosing to complain about the former:

I visited my local America's Tire and they informed me the Conti SSR can't be repaired per Conti. I'm already not a fan of these tires and have to shell out $250 to replace it. From my research, the tire can probably be repaired as the nail was in the center of the tread and the pressure only went as low as 30lbs (this pressure triggered my TPMS light). However after several calls around to some other places, I can't find a place that will plug/patch it.

Considered replacing all 4 with some conventional Michelin S Sports, but since the Contis only have 9500 miles on them, I felt like I was throwing out the baby with the bath water.

Seems like a bit of a racket that Conti and a few other RF manufacturers require replacement on a likely perfectly repairable tire.

Buy a kit and fix it yourself. It is super simple and takes 30mins including removing of the tire. You will have hard time getting any big chain tireshop to fix it for you.
crazyinp is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-02-2013, 12:07 PM   #5
AzureHaze
Lieutenant Colonel
 
AzureHaze's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 335d Sport
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: SoCal

Posts: 1,507
iTrader: (0)

Don't feel so bad. I got rid of my run flats that came with my car for only $200 since my tire shop don't normally buy used tires. I just wanted to get rid of them but not for free. They barely had 5K miles!

Just grab the Michelin PSS and enjoy the much improved ride!
AzureHaze is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      05-02-2013, 12:23 PM   #6
sohcpunk
Second Lieutenant
 
sohcpunk's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 335d
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Socal

Posts: 288
iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2011 335d  [0.00]
Go to a mom and pop shop.
The smallest shop you can find and they will patch it up. Probably will charge you like $10 too!
sohcpunk is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      05-02-2013, 12:32 PM   #7
OILPowered
Private
 
Drives: '11 335d
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Orange County, CA

Posts: 61
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by sohcpunk
Go to a mom and pop shop.
The smallest shop you can find and they will patch it up. Probably will charge you like $10 too!
I seriously couldn't find a shop that would do it. I've never patched a tire myself, so I wasn't confident I'd do it right.

I ended up buying a new tire.

I may buy a new set of wheels next year, (18s), and I'll likely go with the Michelin PSS. Can't beat them.
OILPowered is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-02-2013, 01:18 PM   #8
Puerto Rican 335d
Colonel
 
Puerto Rican 335d's Avatar
 
Drives: Montego Blue 335d
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Puerto Rico

Posts: 2,385
iTrader: (0)

All they have to do is PLUG the damn thing and its all over thats what i used to do on my 02 MCS never had the tire dismounted at all!! just plugged it
__________________
RENNtech Flash/WAGNER IC
VMR710 19"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD
Soft Ride Bike Rack
Amsoil Cetane Boost Diesel Fuel Additive
Amsoil Diesel Fuel Additive Concentrate
Puerto Rican 335d is offline   Puerto Rico
0
Reply With Quote
      05-02-2013, 01:34 PM   #9
SoCalSam
New Member
 
Drives: 2010 335d
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Los Angeles, CA

Posts: 8
iTrader: (0)

I was pretty certain run flats cannot be patched, plugged, or otherwise repaired.

I had run flat on my previous car, a 2005 MINI Cooper S, and did not have much issue with them. I found them to be quite handy given the lack of a spare. I did find some good deals on tires via Tire Rack.com.

I also had some great luck with the tire warranty deal at America's Tire. It is priced based on the tire but with such expensive tires, it can be well worth it.
SoCalSam is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-02-2013, 01:50 PM   #10
Puerto Rican 335d
Colonel
 
Puerto Rican 335d's Avatar
 
Drives: Montego Blue 335d
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Puerto Rico

Posts: 2,385
iTrader: (0)

Socal I believe your wrong, I did it that way and it worked fine many times on my 02 MCS
__________________
RENNtech Flash/WAGNER IC
VMR710 19"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD
Soft Ride Bike Rack
Amsoil Cetane Boost Diesel Fuel Additive
Amsoil Diesel Fuel Additive Concentrate
Puerto Rican 335d is offline   Puerto Rico
0
Reply With Quote
      05-02-2013, 02:06 PM   #11
OILPowered
Private
 
Drives: '11 335d
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Orange County, CA

Posts: 61
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d
Socal I believe your wrong, I did it that way and it worked fine many times on my 02 MCS
They definitely can be plugged/patched as long as the tire wasn't run too low on pressure. The reinforced sidewalls can delaminate if driven flat or almost flat. My tire never went below 30 lbs before I put air in it.

I just couldn't find a place that didn't care about the liability. Conti specifically advises no repairs.
OILPowered is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-02-2013, 02:35 PM   #12
Wrecker335d
Wondering what to do..
 
Wrecker335d's Avatar
 
Drives: like a cock
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Quantico or Long Island

Posts: 514
iTrader: (2)

I had my Conti Runflat plugged/patched. The nail was dead center. I took it to a Sears Auto. I drove with a plug on it for 25k miles before replacing all 4 tires. I didn't have a single problem with leaks or anything.
__________________
Mods: JBD, 35% tint, Wagner Intercooler, Bilstien B12 Kit, M3 Control Arms

OEF Veteran
Wrecker335d is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      05-03-2013, 12:43 PM   #13
jiaan13
uʍop ǝpısdn
 
Drives: '11 335d, SG/Saddle, ZSP, ZPP
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: South bay area, NorCal

Posts: 59
iTrader: (0)

I plugged my RFT when I got a nail in one. Bought a kit from the store, plugged it, pumped it back up-- doesn't leak a bit of air.
jiaan13 is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-03-2013, 12:56 PM   #14
Quasimodem
Colonel
 
Quasimodem's Avatar
 
Drives: 335d
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California

Posts: 2,183
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 335d US  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d View Post
All they have to do is PLUG the damn thing and its all over thats what i used to do on my 02 MCS never had the tire dismounted at all!! just plugged it
+1000 and the runflats seem to wear fast so it wont be long before you replace it anyway.
__________________
Speakers: CDT Audio HD-42 comps--front doors (RAAMmat deadened), CDT ES-06 6.5" woofers--kickpanl Pods, Hertz EBX202R dual 8" ported trunk sub. Amps: Phoenix Gold RSd 500.4 (comps & pods). PG RSd 600.1 (sub). Power & Ground: 4AWG Streetwires w/RockFosgt RFDB1 distro blocks. Input: HU lineout--Kicker KISL RCA adapters--RockFosgt RFIT-6 cables--Audiocontrol Matrix--Monster cables--RSd 500.4--lineout Monstr Cabl to RSd 600.1.
Quasimodem is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      05-03-2013, 01:09 PM   #15
kbsilver
Private First Class
 
Drives: 2011 335d
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Central Jersey

Posts: 158
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quasimodem View Post
+1000 and the runflats seem to wear fast so it wont be long before you replace it anyway.
This must be the 18" summer tires. With my 17" all season Contis and currently 32K on the set, looks like 40K miles out of the rear tires and 80K out of the fronts. I would not call that wearing quickly....
kbsilver is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-03-2013, 01:11 PM   #16
OILPowered
Private
 
Drives: '11 335d
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Orange County, CA

Posts: 61
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quasimodem
Quote:
Originally Posted by Puerto Rican 335d View Post
All they have to do is PLUG the damn thing and its all over thats what i used to do on my 02 MCS never had the tire dismounted at all!! just plugged it
+1000 and the runflats seem to wear fast so it wont be long before you replace it anyway.
Wear depends on the tire in question- the SSR has a 400 rating (40k) -not all RFs wear the same just like conventionals.
OILPowered is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-03-2013, 07:10 PM   #17
335dFan
Jumping Jack Flash
 
335dFan's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 335d
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Oregon (near Portland)

Posts: 1,023
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
OEM Tires: ContiPro Contact SSR Grand Touring All Season 225/45/17. These were mine and I thought they were ok. Good wear, good directional stability. Heck they even did well at the track.
__________________
Mods-Etc: Quaife LSD w/VAC finned diff cover, M3 Rear SF Bushings, M3 sways & OEM Susp Front/Rear Cmpnt Kits ('cept strut brace), GC Caster/Camber Plates, AC Schnitzer M3 Sport Springs, JRZ RS1 dampers, JBD 100%, Goodrich SS brake lines, non-stggrd APEX ARC-8 18" wheels with Michelin PSS tires (winter OEM 17" wheels and Blizzak LM-25).
335dFan is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      05-03-2013, 07:39 PM   #18
VMRWheels
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor

 
VMRWheels's Avatar
 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Anaheim, CA

Posts: 12,314
iTrader: (4)

Garage List
2008 5 Series  [3.30]
Quote:
Originally Posted by OILPowered View Post
I may buy a new set of wheels next year, (18s), and I'll likely go with the Michelin PSS. Can't beat them.


I think you'll be happy with that decision. Ditch those RFTs and get something worthwhile!
__________________

VMR | Wheels - Mitch A. | V702 Multispoke | V810 Flow-Form | LIVE INVENTORY: V705 V703 V710 | V710 PICTURE THREAD
p. 714-442-7916 extension 107 | e. Mitch@velocitymotoring.com | f. facebook.com/vmrwheels f. flickr.com/vmrwheels i. instagram.com/vmrwheels
VMRWheels is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      05-04-2013, 02:15 AM   #19
Quasimodem
Colonel
 
Quasimodem's Avatar
 
Drives: 335d
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California

Posts: 2,183
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 335d US  [0.00]
I think my 2009 came with Bridgestone RFTs, they seemed to wear fast to me. I replaced them with Conti pro Contact non-rfts, which seem to be wearing better. I didnt even know Continental produced RFTs.
__________________
Speakers: CDT Audio HD-42 comps--front doors (RAAMmat deadened), CDT ES-06 6.5" woofers--kickpanl Pods, Hertz EBX202R dual 8" ported trunk sub. Amps: Phoenix Gold RSd 500.4 (comps & pods). PG RSd 600.1 (sub). Power & Ground: 4AWG Streetwires w/RockFosgt RFDB1 distro blocks. Input: HU lineout--Kicker KISL RCA adapters--RockFosgt RFIT-6 cables--Audiocontrol Matrix--Monster cables--RSd 500.4--lineout Monstr Cabl to RSd 600.1.
Quasimodem is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      05-07-2013, 11:26 AM   #20
joe_planet
Lieutenant
 
Drives: 2011 X5d
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: DFW

Posts: 567
iTrader: (1)

Theres a reason why a tire must be dismounted to properly plug it.
The surface must be sealed from the outside AND inside.
The outside must be sealed because water can get inside that hole and rust the steel belts inside.. and well you can imagine what can happen.
The inside must be sealed so air doesnt leak in between the plies of the tire, same result as not sealing the outside properly in due time. Please dont half ass it.

Also the tire needs to be inspected, the sidewalls could be warped among other things and you wont be able to tell unless you take the tire off.
joe_planet is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      05-07-2013, 11:53 AM   #21
Puerto Rican 335d
Colonel
 
Puerto Rican 335d's Avatar
 
Drives: Montego Blue 335d
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Puerto Rico

Posts: 2,385
iTrader: (0)

joe planet i never had the wheel dismounted cause many of the side road shops did not hv the correct machine to open the tires and thus we would just find the nail/screw remove it and plug it while the car STILL had the wheel on and NO JACKS. I never did hv any problems after we plugged it!!!
__________________
RENNtech Flash/WAGNER IC
VMR710 19"/Execuhitch Hitch/Koni FSD
Soft Ride Bike Rack
Amsoil Cetane Boost Diesel Fuel Additive
Amsoil Diesel Fuel Additive Concentrate
Puerto Rican 335d is offline   Puerto Rico
0
Reply With Quote
      05-07-2013, 11:53 AM   #22
darkevo
Commander
 
darkevo's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 335d MSport, 2010 Prius
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Los Angles, CA

Posts: 244
iTrader: (9)

Send a message via AIM to darkevo
I'm not a fan of the run flats, besides extra weight, they are very stiff (by design), and rims are more prone to cracking with them on. (reg driving)

I hit a bad pot hole on the freeway (at 80mph), cracked both rims and blew the sides of the run flats. (extreme example) Don't think they are worth the added cost. I rather keep regular tires and my AAA membership .. ;-)
__________________
2011 335D E90 M-sport Space Gray - JBD, K&N, M3 interior conversion, GiroDisc Rotors
2010 Prius III
1997 Eclipse Spyder GS-T
darkevo is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:00 AM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST