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      05-13-2013, 05:53 PM   #1
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Can't decide on a bad weather DD, utility car.

The M3 is my DD currently and I have my wife's 02 Acura RSX auto (160hp slushbox) for when we have bad weather. Every time I drive that thing a little piece of my soul dies. She drives an Acura MDX, which we use when we go out as a family. I have a 6 year old and sometimes we have others with us.

So my plan was to dump the RSX and pick up a Subaru WRX. I miss rowing gears and want a beater stick. Drove the WRX last week and a couple things surprised me. First, it's not as peppy as I expected. Second, it's pretty bland inside. Third and worst, it's actually smaller inside than my M3 coupe. Seems silly to have a "practical" sedan that is smaller than my fun car.

So now I'm lost. Nashville doesn't get too much bad weather but I want something that can handle anything for the occasional winter storm. I.e. AWD. If the Lexus is350 awd came in a stick I'd be good to go, but it doesn't.

Does anybody have a suggestion? I wonder if the Acura TSX comes in AWD and stick. Audi A4 is another and I think it comes with a stick. But I've known a few people who got burned by their repair bills.

I'll probably pick whatever I decide on from an auction through a friend. If I go beater, cost has to be under 15k. If I go long term DD, then up to 30k.
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seeing some f150 lightnings for ~12k on ebay. there are older 911 non-turbos in that price range also.
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      05-13-2013, 11:18 PM   #5
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Guess I should have qualified it as a search for a car. Already have an SUV.
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Used A4 or S4 with Quattro and a stick? The S4 will have the V8 and you could always do the APR tune to the 2.0T and give it some decent performance for cheap.
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Keep in mind the WRX is very tunable, so it would not be difficult to bump up the power with something like a Cobb Access Port.
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Used 328 or 335xi? The xdrive is bad ass. Youtube it vs all the other heavy hitters awd systems and you'll see. The others don't hold a candle to it. We were about to trade the wifes X3 for a Merc C class, but the 4matic blows compared to the x drive. In upstate NY and with my driveway I actually need and use a great AWD system. In Nasheville maybe you won't. Just a thought. Good luck in your decision.
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i also really like the fiat (15k new, poor man's mini cooper). or a used mini cooper. those would probably be my picks for a dd if i needed one.
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Golf R32 (6 cyl) or Golf R (4 cyl turbo) (both are AWD)
2004 is manual only, choices are leather or cloth seats.
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Keep in mind the WRX is very tunable, so it would not be difficult to bump up the power with something like a Cobb Access Port.
Yep, was going to chime in with Subaru.
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The subaru felt very cheap so I wasn't a fan, even as a winter beater.
That's the problem. I want fun, practical, nice and a stick. My old 95 Integra GS-R was great and I miss beating on that thing. Going for the A4 seems kind of dumb when I have the M3 but I found an 07 A4 S-line that I may go check out.
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That's the problem. I want fun, practical, nice and a stick. My old 95 Integra GS-R was great and I miss beating on that thing. Going for the A4 seems kind of dumb when I have the M3 but I found an 07 A4 S-line that I may go check out.
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The a4 is a dog. Not fun at all.
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The 2.0T feels lifeless. I get them as loaners when my S4 goes in for service. While I adore the feel of the S4 motor, the A4 is just blah.
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My neighbor has a Subaru XV Crosstrek. I think its cool looking in its own way. The orange paint is outrageous but thats part of the fun. Looks like a traffic barrel.

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That poor little car has taken a beating.

The one major downside to those was the ridiculous torque steer. If I lived in a climate with no snow or ice I'd get the new BRZ in a heartbeat. Not too keen on having all 3 of my cars be RWD though.
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That poor little car has taken a beating.

The one major downside to those was the ridiculous torque steer. If I lived in a climate with no snow or ice I'd get the new BRZ in a heartbeat. Not too keen on having all 3 of my cars be RWD though.
that car took a hit but the engine's new and his mod selection's pretty good.

i had a 95 gs-r also before the m3 (17" ssr gpo, trust exhaust, akimoto intake, cams/sprockets). overall great car, gets civic mileage when you don't abuse the vtec. if i see a good type-r at a good deal i might bite. and the jdm front bumper is money.

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