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      05-22-2013, 05:19 PM   #45
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Went out and snapped a few pictures of the lights, with the iPhone, before it starts storming. The pictures don't really do the lights justice. The inner rings are really clear with no blur and the outer rings have a nice amount of light for being a E90. Set at 5200k by the way.



Video of the flickering when the lights turn off, I can't imagine that they are supposed to be like this. I don't know whats up.
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wow that flickering is weird, is that the way its supposed to turn off and on?
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wow that flickering is weird, is that the way its supposed to turn off and on?
I pretty sure it's not supposed to do that. Waiting for Marc or someone to chime in and let me know whats up.
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Mine does that too, doesn't really bother me though.
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WOW hope mines doesnt do that as even the cheap ebay ones (canbus ones) were not doing that and they were 1/8th of the price !
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I pretty sure it's not supposed to do that. Waiting for Marc or someone to chime in and let me know whats up.

What K setting did you set them at?
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What K setting did you set them at?
As mentioned in the above post, they are set at 5200k.
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Did you ever have the V3's? Like everyone else, want to see if they are brighter as LUX is claiming. By the way, nice car

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As mentioned in the above post, they are set at 5200k.
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Did you ever have the V3's? Like everyone else, want to see if they are brighter as LUX is claiming. By the way, nice car
Thanks! Nope never had the v3, was one of those waiting for more 5000k and then these came out.
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wow that flickering is weird, is that the way its supposed to turn off and on?
I pretty sure it's not supposed to do that. Waiting for Marc or someone to chime in and let me know whats up.
Yeah I am curious if everyone's lights are doing this.
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I'm on the fence to buy these now...because of the flickering issue...
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Yeah I am curious if everyone's lights are doing this.
+1 I'm interested to know if everyones does this
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Went out and snapped a few pictures of the lights, with the iPhone, before it starts storming. The pictures don't really do the lights justice. The inner rings are really clear with no blur and the outer rings have a nice amount of light for being a E90. Set at 5200k by the way.



Video of the flickering when the lights turn off, I can't imagine that they are supposed to be like this. I don't know whats up.
Same thing happened on my E92. So I don't think it's a problem. It's so much better than stock and really brighter than V3 !
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Still no response from lux? I cant purchase them till I know if the flickering is supposed to happen.
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Still no response from lux? I cant purchase them till I know if the flickering is supposed to happen.
I contacted him about it and he said, "The stock halogen lights will not flicker because halogen bulbs take a long time to react to the electrical current, and appear to dim smoothly. Because of the electronics we use, as the car lowers the voltage on the headlights it causes our lights to flicker at the end. This is normal."

The flickering isn't the end of the world, at least in my eyes. I just wanted to make sure that it wouldn't cause any long-term problems, which apparently it won't. That being said I'm very pleased with the lights.
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I contacted him about it and he said, "The stock halogen lights will not flicker because halogen bulbs take a long time to react to the electrical current, and appear to dim smoothly. Because of the electronics we use, as the car lowers the voltage on the headlights it causes our lights to flicker at the end. This is normal."

The flickering isn't the end of the world, at least in my eyes. I just wanted to make sure that it wouldn't cause any long-term problems, which apparently it won't. That being said I'm very pleased with the lights.
hmm good to know, thanks. I just like the current feature of the dimming on the stock angel eyes. O well not really a deal breaker.
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Wow, that's awfully sloppy for a $300 product. Could've easily been avoided with the proper driver for the LEDs.
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I agree that's not that difficult to solve. I think it looks terrible and for $300? Maybe I'll hold off and see if they can fix this.
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I would guess that LUX V4 are designed to simulate gradual fade-out effect when you turn off the car (just like it works with incandescent AE bulbs). Since LEDs are not really dimmable, in order to simulate the fade-out effect the LEDs are pulse-width modulated (PWMed or "flickered") with high frequency. This high-frequency flickering is not noticeable to the eye. It does indeed look like gradual fade-out to the eye. However, if you attempt to record it on video, it will become noticeable because of the interference between PWM frequency of the light and frame frequency of the camera. The exaggerated low-frequency flickering that you see in the video above is exactly that: an optical illusion created by camera. It should not not look like that in real life to a human eye.
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Man i just installed mine and I'm pretty disappointed. I went from stock to these cause i thought buy nice or buy twice. I knew the outer ring wouldn't be as bright as the inner one but i didn't think the difference would be this big!!! I can barely see the outer ring! This is in direct sunlight though so hopefully they will be better at night. What really disappointed me was that they flicker when they turn off!!!! For how much they cost they should not flicker and I bought them cause i thought lux didn't flicker.. I just looked at the lux website they say "no flickering on start up"..start up, not turning off... Other than that i guess they're better than stock. They do not even compare to the newer bmw AE's if your wondering. These pics are at 6900k










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I would guess that LUX V4 are designed to simulate gradual fade-out effect when you turn off the car (just like it works with incandescent AE bulbs). Since LEDs are not really dimmable, in order to simulate the fade-out effect the LEDs are pulse-width modulated (PWMed or "flickered") with high frequency. This high-frequency flickering is not noticeable to the eye. It does indeed look like gradual fade-out to the eye. However, if you attempt to record it on video, it will become noticeable because of the interference between PWM frequency of the light and frame frequency of the camera. The exaggerated low-frequency flickering that you see in the video above is exactly that: an optical illusion created by camera. It should not not look like that in real life to a human eye.

The flickering is definitely noticeable in real life to your human eye. I can clearly see them flicker as they turn off
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I would guess that LUX V4 are designed to simulate gradual fade-out effect when you turn off the car (just like it works with incandescent AE bulbs). Since LEDs are not really dimmable, in order to simulate the fade-out effect the LEDs are pulse-width modulated (PWMed or "flickered") with high frequency. This high-frequency flickering is not noticeable to the eye. It does indeed look like gradual fade-out to the eye. However, if you attempt to record it on video, it will become noticeable because of the interference between PWM frequency of the light and frame frequency of the camera. The exaggerated low-frequency flickering that you see in the video above is exactly that: an optical illusion created by camera. It should not not look like that in real life to a human eye.
You obviously do not have these angel eyes then because it is EXTREMELY noticeable to the human eye that they do flicker when turning off. Not only do they flicker but they go from white to blue while flickering. It would be best to have the product or some experience with it before you state what they do and don't do. It has nothing to do with the camera, if you read my first post you would notice that I mention the flickering issue and only posted the video to show others what I was talking about.
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