E90Post
 


ECS BMW
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > All-Wheel-Drive (Xi / xDrive) Talk > Will coilovers (KW) save me from bailing on my 335i xDrive?



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-25-2013, 11:41 AM   #1
pinemind
Private First Class
4
Rep
152
Posts

 
Drives: 2012 135i M-sport 6 sp manual
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (3)

Will coilovers (KW) save me from bailing on my 335i xDrive?

All,

One thing I can't stand about the 335i xDrive after about 14 months of ownership is the suspension (height/float/etc). While contemplating, and pretty much set on, KW V1's, I've also started looking into the possibility of jumping ship completely for a 135is or a used e9x M3.

I'm curious if anyone else was in the same boat of dumping money into upgrading suspension vs just going for a RWD BMW with better suspension from the factory. Was the suspension upgrade enough to kill those thoughts of switching cars? I look at it this way, I could take that ~$2000 for coilovers/install/alignment and put it towards a down payment for one of those two cars I've been eyeing. Plus, I'm sure that would lead to a rabbit hole of bushings, sway bars, etc meaning even more cash (especially with bushing install costs).

Strange question, and I know the two cars I'm contemplating are vastly different, but thoughts appreciated.
Appreciate 0
      06-25-2013, 12:27 PM   #2
JayP
Private First Class
3
Rep
183
Posts

 
Drives: 335 LCI Xdrive
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Quebec, Canada

iTrader: (0)

I do have V1's on my e90 335 xdrive. Sure is alot better than stock suspension.

How much snow are you getting in Boston? I'd keep an AWD
Appreciate 0
      06-25-2013, 12:38 PM   #3
pinemind
Private First Class
4
Rep
152
Posts

 
Drives: 2012 135i M-sport 6 sp manual
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JayP
I do have V1's on my e90 335 xdrive. Sure is alot better than stock suspension.

How much snow are you getting in Boston? I'd keep an AWD
Honestly, the roads are clear before you can think about driving, for the most part. Plus, I can work from home if it snows hard, so that points to switching to RWD. Also, I've never had a RWD car and it's on the bucket list to enjoy before it's time to settle down.
Appreciate 0
      06-25-2013, 01:13 PM   #4
zipstic
Captain
United_States
10
Rep
607
Posts

 
Drives: 2008 e92 335xi
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Minneapolis

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
I haven't had a ton of experience driving a non xi/xdrive e9x, but I prefer my xi with KW V1's over the factory i suspension. The car is going to handle differently being AWD versus RWD, but I really like having the piece of mind during the Minnesota winters having AWD. So to answer you question, no, I never considered selling my xi for an i model.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      06-25-2013, 02:49 PM   #5
Eugeinus
Major
Eugeinus's Avatar
13
Rep
1,095
Posts

 
Drives: 10' E90 335i XDrive
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: DC/NOVA

iTrader: (8)

I've also been running the KW V1's - much better ride in the summer, and if it gets really bad, just raise them in the winter with your winter setup. The way I look at it, yes it's a little expensive, but if you ever sell the car, keep the original springs/shocks and replace them, and sell the V1's. There will always be a market for them here, and you'll be able to recoup a good amount of the cost back.

Besides the better handling, it looks a hell of a lot better too.
__________________
Matte Black Grille|Painted Reflectors|35% Tint|Lux V3|Cyba 3.8 Tips|KW V1|Alufelgen SF-71 Hyper Silver|OEM M-Sport Front/Rear|COBB AP|Coded
Appreciate 0
      06-25-2013, 06:14 PM   #6
Ragi Elias
Private First Class
United_States
3
Rep
133
Posts

 
Drives: 2010 E92 335 (6MT)
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Central NJ

iTrader: (0)

Hey man, I really don't think the question is about handling. I think it's really about do you want/need AWD or not? If not, then of course those two other choices would be a blast. If you do, however, your car will be entirely different with V1s. I just put them on last week after two years of stock. I can't believe how much more comfortable they are and how much better they take bumps, besides the improved handling and appearance. You will def not be upset with getting V1s. But again, if you don't need AWD all together, I'm sure the other two options will handle great.

As between 135 and m3, I would think about how much you like torque and the ability to easily add power.
__________________
Cobb Tuned (93 Octane PTF Protune)- Helix FMIC - VRSF Downpipes - BMS DCI - VRSF Chargepipe
KW V1 Coilovers - 10mm Spacers (Front); 12mm Spacers (Rear)
BMS OCC
RB PCV Valve
Appreciate 0
      06-25-2013, 11:59 PM   #7
Jeffman
Lieutenant
Jeffman's Avatar
5
Rep
442
Posts

 
Drives: 2008 335xi E90
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Somewhere in America

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Huge difference for me. I've had my kwv1s in for almost four years now. I also drive other stock 3-series when I travel, all rwd, and there really is a huge difference there too. Xi + coilovers handles MUCH BETTER than stock OEM RWD, non-M. And as far as snow, the most important thing is to get dedicated snow tires/wheels...thus you'll be able to get dedicated summer tires/wheels too! THROW OUT THE ALL-SEASON TIRES. Yes, I purchased eight new tires and four new wheels. I put the max summer tires on new, lightweight, Apex ARC-8 18" (8.5 F / 9.5 R) and winter tires on the OEM wheels. There is a huge ~8 lb weight savings at each corner for my summer set-up which greatly improves handling, braking and acceleration. Oh, and with the Cobb AP tune and other mods I am able to snack on M3s!
__________________
Cobb ATR Self-Tuned E40 Map | Helix IC | BMS DCI | BMS Thermostat Delete | CP-E Charge Pipe | Forge DV | Apex Arc-8 Hyper Silver | Michelin PSS | Alpina B3 TCU Flash | KW-V1 Coilovers | Lux Angel Eyes | CF Kidneys | Scoops | Rockford Fosgate P300-2 | Earthquake SWS-8xi | iStreamer DAC | "Keep On A Rockin' Me Baby!"
Appreciate 0
      06-26-2013, 12:47 AM   #8
Evochuck
First Lieutenant
7
Rep
325
Posts

 
Drives: 335xi 09
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (2)

My H&R coils were the best buy I could do, much better looks, and no more floating above 150 kmh.

Bonus e90 xdrive pic

Appreciate 0
      06-26-2013, 08:39 AM   #9
pinemind
Private First Class
4
Rep
152
Posts

 
Drives: 2012 135i M-sport 6 sp manual
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeffman View Post
Huge difference for me. I've had my kwv1s in for almost four years now. I also drive other stock 3-series when I travel, all rwd, and there really is a huge difference there too. Xi + coilovers handles MUCH BETTER than stock OEM RWD, non-M. And as far as snow, the most important thing is to get dedicated snow tires/wheels...thus you'll be able to get dedicated summer tires/wheels too! THROW OUT THE ALL-SEASON TIRES. Yes, I purchased eight new tires and four new wheels. I put the max summer tires on new, lightweight, Apex ARC-8 18" (8.5 F / 9.5 R) and winter tires on the OEM wheels. There is a huge ~8 lb weight savings at each corner for my summer set-up which greatly improves handling, braking and acceleration. Oh, and with the Cobb AP tune and other mods I am able to snack on M3s!
Thanks. I'm already a dedicated summer/winter tire/wheel person, so I've got that covered. I appreciate the response especially from someone who's had them on for a such a long time. Plus the comparison to RWD 3-series is a good viewpoint.
Appreciate 0
      06-27-2013, 08:43 AM   #10
akotten
Major
akotten's Avatar
13
Rep
1,043
Posts

 
Drives: 2007 335xi
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Rapid City, SD

iTrader: (2)

I did all of my suspension changes at once, but it really transformed the car. It's a pretty decent performer at the track as well...
__________________
TC Kline S/A | Vorshlag Camber Plates | ///M Bushings & ARB | CP-e DPs | VRSF FMIC | Procede 2.5 w/ OpenFlash | DCI |
Appreciate 0
      06-27-2013, 08:55 PM   #11
CWysong
tuned n dropped 335xi
3
Rep
309
Posts

 
Drives: '09 335i Xdrive e90
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Dayton, Ohio

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eugeinus View Post

Besides the better handling, it looks a hell of a lot better too.

Yup, KWv1s get you where you want to be... get the 135 and you will find yourself wanting to drop it just the same (at least I would). So stick with the AWD and the nicely lowered car
__________________
335xi - BMS DCI - VRSF DP's - JB4 Tune - KW v1 -
Appreciate 0
      06-28-2013, 01:49 AM   #12
Amini77
Brigadier General
Amini77's Avatar
United_States
61
Rep
4,597
Posts

 
Drives: SGM E90 330xi
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Tarzana, CA

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2006 330XI  [3.75]
KWV1 is the best mod I've done on my car. If you throw some supporting suspension mods like end links, strut bar, sway bars, etc. any of those it's a huge improvement. Especially since xi's don't come with sport suspension, it's like jumping 2 levels up. But if I had a chance to get a E90 m3..i'd jump on it.
__________________

instagram: amini77
| KW V1 | LCI rear | 359m Style | Michelin PSS | AA Stage 2 | Gruppe M | Remus | Mtech Rear | M3 Front |
Appreciate 0
      06-28-2013, 06:39 AM   #13
virtualbong
Lieutenant Colonel
virtualbong's Avatar
18
Rep
1,576
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 BMW 550i
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Boston, MA

iTrader: (2)

Drop it and you'll have the best of both worlds.
__________________
2011 BMW 550i M-Sport (Jet Black/Cinnamon Brown) - 4/30/14 (Current)
2007 BMW 328xi e92 (Jet Black/Coral Red) - PAST
2005 Infiniti G35 Coupe (Ivory White/Stone) - PAST
2005 Acura TSX (Obsidian Black/Black) - PAST
1998 Acura Integra (Black/Black) - PAST
Appreciate 0
      07-02-2013, 02:21 PM   #14
2Times
I'd hit it
2Times's Avatar
United_States
7
Rep
627
Posts

 
Drives: black on black e92 335xi
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boostin, MA

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2008 335xi  [5.00]
Funny... I just read this as I was (am) in the same boat. I actually took off all my mods (S2+) because I was thinking of selling the car. After taking everything off, my car felt like a rental car where you say, "why the F is this thing so slow?" lol. I decided to stick it out a little longer though and just purchased KW V1s (From Tiago VRSF) and ordered some rims. We'll see how much time this buys
Appreciate 0
      07-10-2013, 11:32 AM   #15
E90husker
New Member
E90husker's Avatar
1
Rep
19
Posts

 
Drives: 2007 E90 335xi
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Omaha, Nebraska

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JayP View Post
I do have V1's on my e90 335 xdrive. Sure is alot better than stock suspension.

How much snow are you getting in Boston? I'd keep an AWD




Did you need camber plates? Im getting the V1's for my 335xi as well, and was wondering if i will need camber plates.
Appreciate 0
      07-10-2013, 12:33 PM   #16
JC335xi
Second Lieutenant
3
Rep
204
Posts

 
Drives: 07 e90 335xi
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: CT

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by E90husker View Post
Did you need camber plates? Im getting the V1's for my 335xi as well, and was wondering if i will need camber plates.
If the car is just a daily driver then you will be fine without camber plates.
__________________
2007 335xi 6AT | Cobb Stage1+ | BMS DCI | VRSF 7" IC | FA 500 400#F/600#R | ARC8 17x9 et30 | RE-11a 255/40/17

"Dude your retarded. It's 6x 6466's they hit full boost at 15k and they weigh enough to get the stance right"
Appreciate 0
      07-10-2013, 01:30 PM   #17
E90husker
New Member
E90husker's Avatar
1
Rep
19
Posts

 
Drives: 2007 E90 335xi
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Omaha, Nebraska

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JC335xi View Post
If the car is just a daily driver then you will be fine without camber plates.
Yes, just a daily driver. The only thing I would be worried about is uneven tire wear. Have you noticed any?
Appreciate 0
      07-10-2013, 03:35 PM   #18
divisionbell77
Lieutenant
divisionbell77's Avatar
6
Rep
462
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 335i XDrive Coupe
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ohio

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by virtualbong View Post
Drop it and you'll have the best of both worlds.
She-males pop out when you drop it?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Appreciate 0
      07-10-2013, 05:09 PM   #19
2Times
I'd hit it
2Times's Avatar
United_States
7
Rep
627
Posts

 
Drives: black on black e92 335xi
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boostin, MA

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2008 335xi  [5.00]
Update:: Saved my xi for at least a year

Just taken 10 min ago:
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      07-10-2013, 05:15 PM   #20
JayP
Private First Class
3
Rep
183
Posts

 
Drives: 335 LCI Xdrive
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Quebec, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by E90husker View Post
Did you need camber plates? Im getting the V1's for my 335xi as well, and was wondering if i will need camber plates.
Nop, i dont have any camber plates and i am using 15mm spacer in the rear.

But it rubs on highway/bridge bump only.
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2013, 01:15 PM   #21
Ragi Elias
Private First Class
United_States
3
Rep
133
Posts

 
Drives: 2010 E92 335 (6MT)
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Central NJ

iTrader: (0)

I just put KWs on my car about 3 weeks ago. I also have 10mm spacers in front and 12mm in the back. The car still drives straight. Must I still get an alignment? I only drive it on weekends, so I haven't driven on the tires that much since.

The guy who installed them told me I don't have to get it aligned if it still drives straight. That's why I'm asking.
__________________
Cobb Tuned (93 Octane PTF Protune)- Helix FMIC - VRSF Downpipes - BMS DCI - VRSF Chargepipe
KW V1 Coilovers - 10mm Spacers (Front); 12mm Spacers (Rear)
BMS OCC
RB PCV Valve
Appreciate 0
      07-11-2013, 01:21 PM   #22
2Times
I'd hit it
2Times's Avatar
United_States
7
Rep
627
Posts

 
Drives: black on black e92 335xi
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boostin, MA

iTrader: (3)

Garage List
2008 335xi  [5.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragi Elias View Post
I just put KWs on my car about 3 weeks ago. I also have 10mm spacers in front and 12mm in the back. The car still drives straight. Must I still get an alignment? I only drive it on weekends, so I haven't driven on the tires that much since.

The guy who installed them told me I don't have to get it aligned if it still drives straight. That's why I'm asking.
Better safe than sorry... I'd get it done.
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:38 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST