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      07-26-2013, 01:42 AM   #89
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with my e90 and f10, the dealer does 1 oil change a year regardless of mileage for me. typically within 10-12kmi. oil is cheap, the car isnt. if you cant afford to get the oil changes outside of maintenance package, you should not own a car let alone a bmw
Well said you can drive a 50k + car but cannt pay for a oil change I mean it's cool that they pay for almost everything for 4yr/50 k but even if they didn't I would still keep buying them
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      07-26-2013, 06:29 AM   #90
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Welcome development for sure.

15k oil change was absurd and i don't know anyone who waited until 15k to change the oil. I changed mine before 7.5k and split difference.

Replace Diff fluid at 50k. Finally, some common sense prevailed as opposed to old "lifetime" Diff fluid.
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      07-26-2013, 11:57 AM   #91
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Welcome development for sure.

15k oil change was absurd and i don't know anyone who waited until 15k to change the oil. I changed mine before 7.5k and split difference.

Replace Diff fluid at 50k. Finally, some common sense prevailed as opposed to old "lifetime" Diff fluid.
My 2012 F30 328i (N20) had its first oil change at 26,000mls.
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      07-27-2013, 12:41 PM   #92
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If they are smart, any person who bought an earlier F30 (not leased) and requests the new oil change schedule should get it just for customer relations point of view. These people are the minority these days (like myself) that buy a great car and keep it long term and actually enjoy maintaining a car and keeping it going the right way. With 130,000 miles on my e90 and not many parts replaced outside of wear items my car has hardly degraded from new. Sure the driver seat has some wear on the leather, the exterior doesn't look quite as fresh as the e90 once did but overall these just are not throw cars. But most people in the US either lease or buy and trade every 3-4 years.
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      07-27-2013, 01:10 PM   #93
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I'm right now at 8000 miles and the display shows "8000 more miles to oil change".
  1. So, if I ask BMW to change my oil now on my own dime, would they do it?
  2. Will they honor my request to not reset the oil change indicator "remaining miles"?
  3. After my oil change, will the on-board computer/diagnostics detect that the oil quality is new and automatically prolong the remaining more miles to oil change to something close to 15000 "more" miles? If so, that would suck since I would like to get the free oil change after the next 7000 miles (when odo reads 15,000 miles).
1. Sure, they will be glad to.

2. Yes. They will not reset the CBS.

3. No. The CBS uses the number of start/stop cycles and fuel consumption to determine change intervals. That sensor is a second line of defense and will trigger if the oil is really crappy (<< technical term). But that sensor does not say... "Hey, new oil, let's move out the service interval."
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      07-27-2013, 01:13 PM   #94
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I have a 2014 335i waiting in Germany for a ship to the US. I ran the VIN decode here and it shows the new 8KLA ~10,000 mile / 12 month interval.

So there's your confirmation.

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      07-27-2013, 06:24 PM   #95
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By some people's logic here why not do oil change every week.
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      07-27-2013, 08:38 PM   #96
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Makes sense to me based on BMWs history. BMWNA once told me BMWs maintenance schedule is subject to change at any given point in time regardless of what is published. So, i am SOL for the reason i contacted them. Who waits that long anyway to change their oil ?
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You know, it actually could be that the 10K interval is the result of bean counters for the reasons stated above, especially given the annual oil change policy as well. I got an oil change when I hit the 1-year mark even though I was only 2000 miles shy of the mileage mark, and apparently BMW's policy for time-based oil changes is that they do NOT reset the service indicator, so 2000 miles later I got yet another free oil change due to mileage.
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I thought the ultimate service provided for oil changes every 12 months regardless of mileage? I read the fine print and that was my conclusion and my dealer changed it free of charge at 12 months even though I only had 7k miles or so. They didn't reset 'clock' either. It always said December so I plan on getting another oil change this winter even though I wont hit the mileage.

Basically, I'll end up with 2 oil changes before hitting the 15k or whatever is recommended. My car says 8k miles till next change or December (8k more miles would put me at just shy of 18k miles, but I'll have more like 13k when I get it changed for the 2nd time)
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I'm right now at 8000 miles and the display shows "8000 more miles to oil change".
  1. So, if I ask BMW to change my oil now on my own dime, would they do it?
  2. Will they honor my request to not reset the oil change indicator "remaining miles"?
  3. After my oil change, will the on-board computer/diagnostics detect that the oil quality is new and automatically prolong the remaining more miles to oil change to something close to 15000 "more" miles? If so, that would suck since I would like to get the free oil change after the next 7000 miles (when odo reads 15,000 miles).
1- Yes
2- Yes
3- No
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... I thought the ultimate service provided for oil changes every 12 months regardless of mileage? I read the fine print and that was my conclusion and my dealer changed it free of charge at 12 months even though I only had 7k miles or so. They didn't reset 'clock' either....
Yes, the 'ultimate service' gets your oil+filter and windshield wipers changed every 12mo regardless of miles.
Just had mine done and dealer confirmed.

Hmm, we should start a windshield wiper change interval thread next.
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Well good thing I change my oil around 5-8k anyway.
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Yes, the 'ultimate service' gets your oil+filter and windshield wipers changed every 12mo regardless of miles.
Just had mine done and dealer confirmed.

Hmm, we should start a windshield wiper change interval thread next.
I know I always forget to change my wipers on my own until they're basically destroyed, so points to BMW for that one.
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      07-28-2013, 10:20 AM   #102
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Three things people seem to be ignoring:

One - many casual drivers go over the recommended maintenance schedule. At a recommended 15k interval this could end up being much later, say 20k or more. Some lease cars never get their oil changed (so 30k or more) which can create some sludge problems.

Second, have you seen anything at all about blown engines due to long oil change intervals, cause I haven't. You really don't see this as a way for them to get you in their dealerships more often?

Third, some guy just posted in here that he hit 200k miles with 17.5k average oil change intervals. Others have done oil analysis at similar mileage with only minor degradation being reported.

It's like everyone believes in science and advances in technology except when it comes to oil and then they resort to some strange primitive 3k or 5k oil change interval on fully synthetic oil because that's what their Grampie told them, lol.
And still going at 222K. However, my oil sensor just crapped out. I'm going to replace next weekend.
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      07-28-2013, 01:55 PM   #103
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Lifetime fluids

So next are they going to backtrack on calling the automatic and manual transmission fluids "lifetime" fluids and introduce change intervals? I have a letter from BMW Group Canada telling me that their dealers won't service these fluids and doing so would void my warranty. Wonder what they'll say next after change intervals are introduced?
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      07-28-2013, 05:24 PM   #104
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Looks like I'll be doing some extra changes on my '12 X5 35i... especially since i plan on keeping it for at least 10yrs...
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My dealership here in the Uk, dinighs any knowledge of this.
Does this apply to europe?.

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still twice as long as they should be. every 5k miles or 6 months, no matter what car, motor, or brand. oils cheap, motors are not, why skimp on something so important?
I went so far as every 3k miles except for Hybrids.

That Hybrids have same intervals as normal gasoline cars shows an issue as well.
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      08-14-2013, 04:16 PM   #107
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~10k miles between oil changes matches what I've seen recommended in the Blackstone Labs reports (for E9x M3s).
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      09-04-2013, 09:54 AM   #108
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This guy nails it, as I keep my cars for 10-15 years and thought that the recommended intervals were a bit long. I have had oil analysis done and for my engine and driving conditions (turbocharged + lots of city/suburban driving), the shortened intervals I've used are vindicated by the results. Those of you who drive more highway miles will have no problem extending your intervals.
well that is comforting to hear since i have 32,000 miles and have only done one oil change. my next one should be in about 2,000 miles. i drive about 95% highway to work every day.
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      09-08-2013, 08:02 PM   #109
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I just had my 320i in for it's first oil change at 5000k, but I was told when I bought it I could come in every 10,000+. Odd, only a few months after that and they're changing the story. I mean, my previous car (Chevy) was recommended every 5000k so I'm going to continue following that model... wonder what triggered this change.
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Perhaps BMW is getting ready to move the US to LL04 oils. Historically these oils were only suitable for diesels. BMW is selling more diesels so they will have to stock more LL04. They may save some $$ by moving the entire fleet to this oil and slowly reduce their need to stock LL01 (ULSG is coming) .

For current sulphur levels in US gas in order to use LL04 in gassers you would have to shorten the OCI.

Cost of stocking bulk oil of two different varieties, greater chance of using incorrect oil in diesels, etc etc.


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