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      11-11-2014, 05:11 PM   #1
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New JB4!! Let's talk supporting mods

Just got my JB4 and a friend is recommending to just run map 1 for now. That's what I'm planning to do, but what should be my next mods, downpipes or a charge pipe. Im leaning forwards a charge pipe so the oem dosnt grenade on me. But if I do do I need to get a new bov also? What do you guys reccomend. I was looking at a vsrf CP.
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if you want to be safe, get the charge pipe. you can get the vrsf one that uses stock diverter valves if you don't want to buy the bov

but then the stock diverter valves will leak under increased boost eventually, so you may want a bov

but the cp doesn't make any real power... you need downpipes for that. but getting those before the cp could cause your stock cp to pop even sooner.

you don't need an intercooler unless you really need consistant power for multiple pulls in a row. but while you're installing downpipes, you're down there anyways, what's another hour...

and so goes the life of a car enthusiast
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Sounds like your on the right path. Just go with whatever you feel comfortable with.

CP stock DV
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CP with BOV

Since your in CO at probably high elevation, I'd consider an FMIC before downpipes as you will be over turning your turbo's a lot harder to hit targets and as a result your intake temps will be considerably higher then normal.
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get a cobb! lol jk jk guys i would go fmic next or downpipes... if its something you need to save up for i say get a chargepipe dont end up like me and end up on the side of the road and carless for 5 days waiting for the new one to come in lol
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Don't quite know how this helped but okay?
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Don't quite know how this helped but okay?
Example of how just a few simple mods + e85 will make good power. E85 is easily the best mod you can do with a JB4.
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Don't quite know how this helped but okay?
Example of how just a few simple mods + e85 will make good power. E85 is easily the best mod you can do with a JB4.
I understand that, I'm just wondering if I'll be able to not crack my charge pipe running that high of boost.
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I understand that, I'm just wondering if I'll be able to not crack my charge pipe running that high of boost.
some guys run 18 psi all day without any problems

some guys blow it at 8 psi

no real way to tell until it happens
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You'll certainly want a charge pipe. I just blew mine last week.
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Just got my JB4 and a friend is recommending to just run map 1 for now. That's what I'm planning to do, but what should be my next mods, downpipes or a charge pipe. Im leaning forwards a charge pipe so the oem dosnt grenade on me. But if I do do I need to get a new bov also? What do you guys reccomend. I was looking at a vsrf CP.
be on the safe side and get a CP the DP can wait and power
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Downpipes are overrated I run low 12’s with stock exhaust and stock intake.
DP will make your car stink, be loud or raspy, throw check engine lights, fail smog (if applicable)

Do charge pipe first with OEM DV/BOV (you can always upgrade to OEM style forged BOV later on)

then do intercooler

then Meth injection or upgraded LPFP to run E50-E60
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Downpipes are overrated I run low 12s with stock exhaust and stock intake.
DP will make your car stink, be loud or raspy, throw check engine lights, fail smog (if applicable)

Do charge pipe first with OEM DV/BOV (you can always upgrade to OEM style forged BOV later on)

then do intercooler

then Meth injection or upgraded LPFP to run E50-E60
lol at them being over rated but OP yes change the chargepipe IT WILL CRACK the worst part is not knowing when again dont make my mistake and be stuck on the side of the road on the way to get work done at a shop haah
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BTW, I found out the hard way that you can drive the car with a broken charge pipe. Just stay light on the throttle and it runs just fine.
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BTW, I found out the hard way that you can drive the car with a broken charge pipe. Just stay light on the throttle and it runs just fine.
that you can.... but just the thought of any possible open parts and wondering if my c clip was still in there and possiblylosing it lol i did let it coast to a parking lot tho haha good old denys got to eat while the tow truck came haha
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Get a CP , DP, Intercooler, FMIC, DCI in that order
Lots of good CP out there ER and VRSF are the most popular ( cant go wrong with either one)



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Downpipes are overrated I run low 12’s with stock exhaust and stock intake.
DP will make your car stink, be loud or raspy, throw check engine lights, fail smog (if applicable)

Do charge pipe first with OEM DV/BOV (you can always upgrade to OEM style forged BOV later on)

then do intercooler

then Meth injection or upgraded LPFP to run E50-E60
What is an oem style forged bov? Stronger then oem? And price?
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Downpipes are overrated I run low 12’s with stock exhaust and stock intake.
DP will make your car stink, be loud or raspy, throw check engine lights, fail smog (if applicable)

Do charge pipe first with OEM DV/BOV (you can always upgrade to OEM style forged BOV later on)

then do intercooler

then Meth injection or upgraded LPFP to run E50-E60
What is an oem style forged bov? Stronger then oem? And price?
Ha! Told you. All of those info sums up to what I said
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Ha! Told you. All of those info sums up to what I said
Pfft you said I should get DPs!
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Pfft you said I should get DPs!
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596820

30whp gain on a lightly modified setup. More gain as you have more mods. It's up to you if its worth it or not.
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