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      08-20-2013, 10:56 AM   #45
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Thats about how mine sits too. There is so much unoccupied space above that flex pipe section. I wonder if the hanger can be modified to allow the pipe to sit up closer to the car. how much clearance do yuo have under the brace now?
+1, nope the hanger is very close. TRUST ME I spent 3 days FKING around with adjusting this. This is as close to the chassis as it will get of you be hitting the chassis. For 2nd pipe ya it can be adjusted... maybe.... but that's not my concern.

All i can see is to either;
1. Crush the exhaust where the V brace bolts so it fits (BTW BMW did that with their stock exhaust). Don't like crushing

2. Get a custom brace welded by a muffler shop.

3. Use 2 separate braces per each side but don't know how effective that be.

4. Take out the wallet and spend double on a different exhaust that will fit and might not have as much weight savings.

5. Put stock exhaust back on and cut the mufflers pay ~1400.

I think I'll try #2 next.
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Is your car lowered? My car is, but it's not like it's super low or anything, and there's NO WAY I could drive it around like that. It would rip itself off after the first driveway I pulled out of. That brace scrapes on my car now over speed bumps, and I only added like 3-4 washers at each of the 4 corners of the brace when I installed my exhaust.

It seems like it'd be much better to leave it off until you figure something else out, rather than damage all of those holes if the bolts break when the brace gets caught on something while you're driving.
Ya I was thinking of that to my self. Ya my car is lowered I show you pic later on. Scraping yes, I have to exit my driveway on angle not to scrape, but the part that scrapes the driveway is not the brace. Like I said the Y pipe coming down from the down pipes where the first part connects is the lowest part. It sits lower then the brace and that is the part that scrapes. There is no way to adjust that. I might leave it off but still not giving up. This is very frustrating
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This is how low i sit, a coke can will not roll under the air diffuser mounted in front of the wheels. But surprisingly the dealer went through a car wash very slowly and said that car doesn't rub. Slammed? Maybe but i'm not rubbing so don't care.


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I wish you were local, we've fixed the low hanging issue a couple times free of charge for customers, took less than 15 minutes when you know what to adjust.

The first pipe mid pipe should be able to rotate a bit farther up as well. Shoot me a PM with your location and I'll be happy to schedule a time if you're anywhere near the MA area.
TIAGO the 1st pipe is rotated upward to the max 1/8" from chassis. Are you telling me that you can rotate it further??? The brace sits totally below the first pipe so clearly this is not fully engineered. I wouldn't believed it until i tried it for my self. 2nd pipe can be rotated probably bit further but I already did to the max where the hanger rubber on 2nd pipe (and this is the hanger that was supplied) is compressed like in a vice. So realistically the muffler hangers hold everything. Maybe I got a defected pipe not bent in right spot, manufacturer defect ? Maybe but I guarantee you can not rotate the 1st pipe further or you hit the chassis. My pinky won't even fit in the clearance between heat shield and the 1st pipe thats how tight it is. BTW i'm in Chicago area. If you want you can send me another 1st pipe and I test it...
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TIAGO the 1st pipe is rotated upward to the max 1/8" from chassis. Are you telling me that you can rotate it further??? The brace sits totally below the first pipe so clearly this is not fully engineered. I wouldn't believed it until i tried it for my self. 2nd pipe can be rotated probably bit further but I already did to the max where the hanger rubber on 2nd pipe (and this is the hanger that was supplied) is compressed like in a vice. So realistically the muffler hangers hold everything. Maybe I got a defected pipe not bent in right spot, manufacturer defect ? Maybe but I guarantee you can not rotate the 1st pipe further or you hit the chassis. My pinky won't even fit in the clearance between heat shield and the 1st pipe thats how tight it is. BTW i'm in Chicago area. If you want you can send me another 1st pipe and I test it...
Mine fit the same way, 2nd pipe hanger isnt supporting anything. Thats why i wonder if it should be modified to match the hanger on the HPF system.
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(SHERE, SHARE, SHARE, did I share? Share thoughts, suggestions, ideas, etc. GOING BACK TO STOCK IS NOT A SUGGESTION!)

Hey guys can anyone tell me how important is the V Brace that goes under the exhaust and connects center car chassis rear suspension bridge? I had to remove it do to installation of aftermarket exhaust and debating on just running a custom brace per each side. I saw that HPF exhaust came with spacers where their exhaust fits above the stock brace after using the spacers provided. The exhaust I got was from VRSF and it is a beautiful piece but required me to remove the V brace. Running washers is not an option the exhaust sits too low and believe me i worked all day on tucking it as close to the chassis as possible. I welcome any ideas for custom brace, but debating if it is even worth making. I'm thinking of making one but per each side of the chassis so it would look like V brace but cut in half as the exhaust pipe needs to be in the middle..... and sorry but I couldn't find anything on the site for this topic. Maybe my searching skills are not so great

I'm talking about part #17

Hi,

Your VRSF Exshast is a piece of art I can tell you that. However I didn't want to lose my V brace and went with The aFe Mach Force XP cat back exhaust system produces 11hp and 10lbs. x ft. of torque. Ok, it may not produce the same HP but it's light high quality high quality aluminium (304) and clamps. Most importantly, it doesn't affect my V brace.

I would not remove any of my McPherson suspension components on my 335I M bc I think it's an essential family component including the front vs back weight ratio.

However! If you don't drift or take hard corners much, who gives 2 sh1ts right

Ditch the make shift project, and enjoy your Exhast. It wont be the same anyway.

Thanks for sharing.

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I like my car FLAT on the bottom this is why I bought this car. Anyway, so people don't think i suck at installing this thing here are some updated pics and you tell me if the exhaust is not tucked in. Kid you not, I love the performance and the sound however i'm not willing to make any compromises to the chassis just because of that, it's not why I mod my car and have 2K suspension mods, I mod for performance so nothing can interfere with that and if it does then it will come off.

Pictures are a million words, here you go, kind of dark but will do.



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I like my car FLAT on the bottom this is why I bought this car. Anyway, so people don't think i suck at installing this thing here are some updated pics and you tell me if the exhaust is not tucked in. Kid you not, I love the performance and the sound however i'm not willing to make any compromises to the chassis just because of that, it's not why I mod my car and have 2K suspension mods, I mod for performance so nothing can interfere with that and if it does then it will come off.

Pictures are a million words, here you go, kind of dark but will do.



I admire your passion.

Yes it's low, I was just focussing ....commenting on the V bar vs Exshast AM maker.

I wish you the best of luck

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I like my car FLAT on the bottom this is why I bought this car. Anyway, so people don't think i suck at installing this thing here are some updated pics and you tell me if the exhaust is not tucked in. Kid you not, I love the performance and the sound however i'm not willing to make any compromises to the chassis just because of that, it's not why I mod my car and have 2K suspension mods, I mod for performance so nothing can interfere with that and if it does then it will come off
Hi again,

I showed my mechanic your work around.....it simply is not a permanent fix, I thought I would let you know. We all don't want you blasting a corner and cracking your V rear strut bar. Just be carefull.

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Thanks, ya I hate being careful, whats the fun in that? I like a wild ride. I drive it like I stole it. This sucks....
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Thanks, ya I hate being careful, whats the fun in that? I like a wild ride. I drive it like I stole it. This sucks....
So did you end up doing anything about it?
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Damn!!! How many washers you use as spacers to clear that midpipe!!!
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Damn!!! How many washers you use as spacers to clear that midpipe!!!
The answer is over 200 then i lost count. They all came off. Everything actually is off for time being. Went to back to stock exhaust. Will post what I have done but sorry to say that exhaust will be missed, torque was incredible with incredible sound, I sit way too low for it. Stay tuned for update later this weekend.
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So did you end up doing anything about it?
Ya I adjusted for another 4 - 5 hrs where the pipe was touching heat shield and got rattle noise.... ofcourse just to test how much of clearance i can get and was 1/4 of in higher but still sticking out like 1 3/4 inch, had to use 199 washers insetad of 220, big deal lol. Guess what .... ....ripped it out. Back to stock and new swizzle coming tomorrow. I'm done with this, All i can tell you is that either my shit was defected or doesn't fit well on e92. Pictures speak their own words. Maybe my car is bent in U shape making the exhaust stick out ....whatever .... maybe I don't know how to install shit. I'm done with it. Had sparks flying at night on highway at some points. OFF it goes, Next! Hint #5.
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Here you go. Went and cut the mufflers off and got my self some QUADS!

DID everything myself. Remus provided bumper cut out template. M B from CA hooked ME UP! Thanks Alan!

Didn't even think, I just cut the bumper with template and craftsman utility knife $10 Remus provided the template and here are the results. Still have to file some and touchup with paint but V Brace is there however I will install Hotchkis next got used one which just arrived this week.



NOTHING STICKING OUT ANYMORE!

BIG BROTHER looking at that ass with 4 pipes....



Unique Sound no doubt. Definitely could give someone a heart attack when properly floored. Looks awesome and I's say better then before. Got to PAY TO PLAY! Performance i would say is on par with other exhaust. I still needs to break it in but car seems to fly now. BTW with a big smile on my face already got at ticket, damn cops! Person can't even have a little fun....... F EM!
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After driving about 60 miles, the exhaust is almost broken in, the note is awesome. I would highly recommend this exhaust to anyone that is interested in one or car nut and likes the sound of a true race car with two whistles. During normal driving it is very pleasent to listen too. Actually i think i turned off the radio like 50 times today. That says something. Updated pictures after install during day time.

The cut out cost me 2 hrs of my time and $15 for Craftsman utility knife and some heavy duty blades.







The cut out caused me 2 hrs and $15 for Craftsman utility knife and some heavy duty blades.
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After driving about 60 miles, the exhaust is almost broken in, the note is awesome. I would highly recommend this exhaust to anyone that is interested in one or car nut and likes the sound of a true race car with two whistles. During normal driving it is very pleasent to listen too. Actually i think i turned off the radio like 50 times today. That says something. Updated pictures after install during day time.

The cut out cost me 2 hrs of my time and $15 for Craftsman utility knife and some heavy duty blades.







The cut out caused me 2 hrs and $15 for Craftsman utility knife and some heavy duty blades.
Nice, post up some vids of how it sounds
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THANKS TO ALAN @ MOD BARGAINS YOU GET QUAD SOUND LIKE THIS! CRANK UP THE VOLUME!

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Woah.. Those are the new remus race w/ slash cut tips right? Car sounds awesome!!!!
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Woah.. Those are the new remus race w/ slash cut tips right? Car sounds awesome!!!!
Don't know if they are new but you can pick your tips when you order.
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You did a great job on the cutout. That is the best one I have seen by far! Any fitment issues with this system? Still have stock ground clearance?
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