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      12-06-2005, 07:48 PM   #1
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Got a nail in my run-flat...

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today i was driving, and it appears i got a nail in my right rear tire. I didnt know i had anything wrong with it until the "FLAT TIRE!" warning came across the i-drive screen. The tire held up fine and i made an apointment to have it replaced tomarrow. i drove another 30 miles on it and i dont know if i felt a differnece or not. If there was noticable it was either very minute or all mental.

Heres what im wondering... I have a rear tire that is going to be replaced. I am wondering if i should get the other rear tire replaced as well. I have 8,000 miles on the tires, but i drive my car extremely hard. Im not sure how warn it is, but the idea of having my tires being worn differently upsets me.

luckily i purchased the road hazzard- wheel and tire insureance, so i wont be paying for the punctured tire. I know its not moral, but does anything stop me from puting a nail in my other rear tire in order to have two new rear tires?

btw am i correct in my assumption that rear tires ware quicker than the fronts? (on a rwd car of course)

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I know its not moral, but does anything stop me from puting a nail in my other rear tire in order to have two new rear tires?
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Are you absolutely sure that the tire couldn't be repaired?
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I got a screw in my tire..

I got no warning

I just looked at the tire and saw how low it was riding so I took it to the gas station up the street and they just plugged it.
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RUNFLAT TIRES CANNOT BE FIXED. They have to be replaced. I also got a nail in my left rear tire. I wouldnt recommend to stick a nail in the other tire just in case, it's kinda noticiable. If i were you i'll give it like a week or 2. I also have the tire insurance =]
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      12-06-2005, 08:11 PM   #7
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RUNFLAT TIRES CANNOT BE FIXED.
THAT IS AN ABSOLUTELY FALSE STATEMENT.

I've had two nails-in-the-tire within a six month period & both were patched with no problems.
Anyone who tells you it can't be done just wants to sell you an overpriced tire.
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RUNFLAT TIRES CANNOT BE FIXED
Punctures IN THE SIDEWALL cannot be fixed. If the puncture is on the tread, conventional patches will work just fine.
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so what do you guys think about going over an "extra" nail in the other rear tire... i mean, i told the guy today it was only one tire, but whos to say that i just didnt notice the other flat one.. it just says "flat tire" not "flat tires"
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two questions:

1) How much to replace one run-flat tire at the dealer?

2) How much is the wheel/tire insurance if you don't mind me asking?
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Punctures IN THE SIDEWALL cannot be fixed. If the puncture is on the tread, conventional patches will work just fine.
Which is true of most radial belted tires.

In the tread, yes.

In the sidewall, no.
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Which is true of most radial belted tires.

In the tread, yes.

In the sidewall, no.
Exxxactly!

And as far as pricing of run-flats goes, I believe the Bridgestones are in the $300-$400 range.
The insurance quote offered to me was about $380 at the time of my E90 purchase.
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two questions:

1) How much to replace one run-flat tire at the dealer?

2) How much is the wheel/tire insurance if you don't mind me asking?
I have the ZSP with the 255/30?/17. That shiet cost me 377.90 with labor. But I have insurance so no biggie =D

Insurance for me it was 675$ for 1 year. But that has to be purchased when you buy the car. I kinda got ripped off but it's ok at least i already got half of the money with the new tire =D. It also covers curve scratches
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Exxxactly!

And as far as pricing of run-flats goes, I believe the Bridgestones are in the $300-$400 range.
The insurance quote offered to me was about $380 at the time of my E90 purchase.
took the words right out of my mouth...


ne one think popping my other tire would be a bad idea...?

or would 2 rear flats really be that obvious? and even if it was obvious... i think theyd still install it, i dont think bmw would pursue me on insurance fraud.... right? lol
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RUNFLAT TIRES CANNOT BE FIXED. They have to be replaced. I also got a nail in my left rear tire. I wouldnt recommend to stick a nail in the other tire just in case, it's kinda noticiable. If i were you i'll give it like a week or 2. I also have the tire insurance =]
You're smoking crack.

Have the tire plugged. If you end up replacing it, keep the damaged tire and have it plugged (keep it for a spare). I think you should just replace the one tire. 8,000 miles isn't that bad and the difference should be minimal.
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Which is true of most radial belted tires.

In the tread, yes.

In the sidewall, no.
can i get e90post (my new verb) the answer on 'what is radial belted tired'?

i'm too lazy to google and guess which is right..
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RUNFLAT TIRES CANNOT BE FIXED. They have to be replaced. I also got a nail in my left rear tire. I wouldnt recommend to stick a nail in the other tire just in case, it's kinda noticiable. If i were you i'll give it like a week or 2. I also have the tire insurance =]


RFT can be fix. I got two nails on my right rear tire, one nail on the tread side and the other nail on the side wall. I got a plug kit at walmart for $7.00 and I pluged it myself.
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local shops will patch a runflat for $5......
but don't plug it....you're just making the hole BIGGER!
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two questions:

1) How much to replace one run-flat tire at the dealer?

2) How much is the wheel/tire insurance if you don't mind me asking?
Recently had to replace my right rear RFT - Bridgestone Turanza and it was $225.00 at BMW of Fairfax. I lucked out as it was their only tire in stock - no other local tire store had one in stock. Then cost me $48 for installation at NTB as the BMW service department was booked and I needed to get on the road (understandable). They can be repaired, however, my tire had a nail too close to the sidewall.

Was never offered tire insurance with my purchase.

After much thinking, think these RFT's are a nice added feature; just hope they come down in price and increase in availability soon, which they should.
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A letter appeared in November BMW Car (UK Mag) on this subject.

It would seem that certainly in the UK there is a level of ignorance that results in the "can't fix it" response.

The Guy in question went to a national tyre franchise who said no, and two BMW dealers, one who who said it could be repaired and one who said it couldn't. BMW Helpline were also vague on the point.

They then contacted the tyre manufacturer (Goodyear) who confirmed that the tyre could be fixed provided that the puncture was not near the sidewall, and the tyre had not been driven deflated over a long distance.

As an aside BMW claim that a 530d fitted with run-flats is 10seconds faster around the Nurburgring than one without (UK BMW magazine Autmumn/Winter 2005).

My 2p worth:
The only difference that I am aware of between run-flats and a standard tyre is the reinforced sidewall. The wheels themselves are also modified to ensure that a deflated tyre remains on the rim. Therefore they may be treated as any other tyre when considering a repair within the treaded area of the tyre.

However....... whereas you would change a deflated standard tyre immediately and take the tyre for repair this is impossible for the RFT with no spare. Therefore you should carefully consider any damage that may have occured to the tyre whilst running deflated. If you can keep pumping the tyre up and/or run at a slow speed there should be no problem. But if you have driven at high speed and loadings for some distance the heat generated through the extra flexing of the deflated sidewall and loads placed on it are bound to have a detrimental effect on the tyre.

I believe that this is why many tyre fitters will say that you have to replace the tyre. Even in the UK, let alone the litigous USA imagine what would happen should a run-flat fail having been repaired.

At the end of the day tyres are expensive, but you entust them with your life every time that you drive. Just use common sense to decide.
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two questions:

1) How much to replace one run-flat tire at the dealer?

2) How much is the wheel/tire insurance if you don't mind me asking?
Bunch of RF tires on tirerack.com ranging from $150-$220. The OEM Bridgetone is $203 now. You can install at the local tire shops for $15-$20 per wheel.
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i really started this thread to find out if i should rip the dealer off for another back tire... for free?(because of insurance)
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