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      08-30-2013, 12:26 AM   #1
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335i handling in REAL snow w/REAL winter tires

OK, so I see plenty of threads comparing 335xi's w/all-seasons to 335i's with snow tires. Sure, a car w/snow tires should outperform one w/o those tires, Subarus excepted. Most of the 335i drivers posting deal with snow, have real snow tires, but live in the flatlands. Sure, I have never been to Chicago, but it really can't be as rugged of terrain as living in Tahoe or Eastern Washington.

So, how does a 335i do in REAL winter conditions, on real (6-10%) snowy grades. Assuming Blizzaks are being run on all 4's. Conditions, say, like going to the ski hill (which sits 4000 feet above town) 3 days a week? I want to hear from those users, either positive or negative.

FWIW, I am driving a 2011 328i, and have the itch to upgrade to a 335i. I really don't want to find out I can no longer get to the hill once late November rolls around. 328i is fine in the snow, even with less than full-on snow tires (Dunlop winter sport, which aren't much softer than all-seasons). Also, I know how to drive in snow. Been living in the mountains all but 5 years of my drivers-license holding life. The only issues I ever have had were sliding into a ditch, because, you guessed it, not changing over tires that were basically bald before the snows hit.

Yes, I have looked at a 335xi, but the added cost of putting on decent suspension and getting a reasonable ride height is a turn-off.
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      08-30-2013, 01:10 AM   #2
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If you can get around fine in your 328 you will not have any problems with a 335. The nice thing about turbo cars is when driven slowly it will feel like your 328. The turbos wont kick in till you accelerate enough for it to need them. You could even run a detuned map in the winter (not that I think it would be necessary but it is possible) if you end up tuning the car.

I lived most of my life in the mountains of PA and NY and have had several fast NA and turbo cars and the turbo cars are much easier in the winter.
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      08-31-2013, 05:19 AM   #3
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I have a 335i (not X drive) and I put 4 Blizzak LM-60's on it last year. I never had a single problem. PA gets a decent amount of snow.
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      08-31-2013, 07:27 AM   #4
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I had a e92 335i with blizzaks in Michigan, no problems. 50/50 weight distribution + DTC / ABS + snow tires = no problem

Just purchased an E90 335i, and snow tires are already in the garage ready to go; daily driver in the winter!
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      08-31-2013, 07:29 AM   #5
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I got around just fine last winter with my 18 inch OEM rims and a set of Michelin Alpin PA3 tires.
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Depends really if you know how to drive.
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My car sits lower than a M3. I drive around with no problem. I tried to avoid extreme snowstorms days with more than 8", maybe 1-2 times a season.
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      08-31-2013, 09:34 AM   #8
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I've posted in these threads before: "AWD just gets you stuck further in the woods". Or down the road.

I used to have a 330xi - with snows it would simply outperform any car with all-seasons, including all those jacked-up SUV/Trucks with knobby tires (they're ridiculously poor performing.) I gave up the AWD when buying my 335d, but not the snow tires - running Bridgestone LM-26. Never had any trouble last year driving to my cabin (200 yards up rutty, often un-plowed road) or the ski area (Crystal Mt near Mt. Rainier). But I'm an extremely experienced snow driver, and drove the Highlander a few times just to be sure I'd be able to get to the cabin (the ski area would never have been a problem because the road is always pretty well maintained.)

My son (not sure if he posts here) got stuck just a little bit only once coming to the cabin in his 335i with LM-60. He was backing out of the drive, limited ability to turn, road was a little uphill, rutted badly. Had to do a little shovel and sand job, no problems. Wouldn't have gotten stuck with AWD, but a shovel and a little care works wonders.

The extra 3/4" of the 'xi cars won't help a lot - you can still get high-centered. Don't forget to turn on DTC if you're climbing hills and need a bit of speed/momentum to get up. If you do get stuck, STOP IMMEDIATELY and PLAN how to get un-stuck; spinning your tires is never right.
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      08-31-2013, 04:13 PM   #9
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