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      09-11-2013, 06:25 PM   #1
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Are there replicas or similar style wheels?

Figured I would just update this threads title and contents to reflect my new question rather than starting a new thread.

I saw a set of AG Function F110 Wheels. (Avante Garde)

The only problem with these are I am looking to spend on a set, what one wheel costs alone. I have looked but can't find anything, do you guys know if there is a 'cheaper' version of this wheel?

http://avantgardewheels.com/f110.php


Also found these. The picture is of one big lip, but there are options for step-lips. Anyone have pictures?

http://www.forgestar.com/v2/wheelsf14f.php

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Didn't you already made a thread from this subject. What was wrong with that?
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=881417

And like said there VARRSSTOEN ES1 is probably only LM reps that make wide wheels.
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Didn't you already made a thread from this subject. What was wrong with that?
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=881417

And like said there VARRSSTOEN ES1 is probably only LM reps that make wide wheels.
Huh. Go figure, didnt even see your reply to that thread, and forgot it was even made. My apologies, this thread can be closed. Not interested in having redrilled wheels.
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Huh. Go figure, didnt even see your reply to that thread, and forgot it was even made. My apologies, this thread can be closed. Not interested in having redrilled wheels.
No worries. Why don't you want re-drilled wheels or re-inserted wheels? There isn't going to be extra holes. My current wheels are re-drilled Varsstoen wheels.
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Well no extra holes is a plus, but most people I mentioned that to, as well as myself, believe that once you start drilling a wheel it get weaker. Plus it's extra money. Just make them in that size !
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"little girls wheel" lmao you're talking about buying reps bro.. cmon
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"little girls wheel" lmao you're talking about buying reps bro.. cmon
Winter wheels to get destroyed
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9.5" or 10" square for winter... That's smart.
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Well no extra holes is a plus, but most people I mentioned that to, as well as myself, believe that once you start drilling a wheel it get weaker. Plus it's extra money. Just make them in that size !
You are right, it would be nice to have the wheels directly 5x120. Sure there would be market for those. Re-inserting the wheel cost 100$ from Varrstoen. I don't think that it weakens the wheel tho, because the difference between 5x114,3 and 5x120 isn't that significant. Of course i cant be 100% sure that there wouldn't be minimal difference at durability. But i respect your decision.
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9.5" or 10" square for winter... That's smart.
I still want my car to sit pretty, why would 10" squared not be a good thing? I cannot seem to understand that.
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You are right, it would be nice to have the wheels directly 5x120. Sure there would be market for those. Re-inserting the wheel cost 100$ from Varrstoen. I don't think that it weakens the wheel tho, because the difference between 5x114,3 and 5x120 isn't that significant. Of course i cant be 100% sure that there wouldn't be minimal difference at durability. But i respect your decision.
I would love to buy them, I have thought about it, but got talked out of it. A company isn't going to say oh yeah it makes them a little less durable so of course in their eyes it's not a problem.
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I still want my car to sit pretty, why would 10" squared not be a good thing? I cannot seem to understand that.
You want narrower tires in the winter, unless you don't plan on driving it in the snow.
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You want narrower tires in the winter, unless you don't plan on driving it in the snow.
Weird, would assume a wider tire give you better traction especially with all wheel drive. Huh, go figure. Still want them, because I'm not a fan of sunken in wheels.
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Weird, would assume a wider tire give you better traction especially with all wheel drive. Huh, go figure. Still want them, because I'm not a fan of sunken in wheels.
No it's other way around. Narrower tyre works better in the snow.

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I would love to buy them, I have thought about it, but got talked out of it. A company isn't going to say oh yeah it makes them a little less durable so of course in their eyes it's not a problem.
Did you ask Navith @ Varrstoen what he had to say about re-inserting. After the holes are drilled, they are inserted for reinforcement. By the way member #Tee has re-inserted wheels too. Notice those "extra" pieces in the holes. It's the same on my wheels.

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Updated my original post with a new question.
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VMR has one similar style and you can get 9.5 square setup.
http://www.velocitymotoring.com/wheels_v715.html
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VMR has one similar style and you can get 9.5 square setup.
http://www.velocitymotoring.com/wheels_v715.html

Thanks, never looked at VMR, but they aren't what I am looking for. Step lip is nice and a design like the AGs, these look too similar to mine.
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Thanks, never looked at VMR, but they aren't what I am looking for. Step lip is nice and a design like the AGs, these look too similar to mine.
Also are you still looking 18 inch or 19 inch?
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Also are you still looking 18 inch or 19 inch?
Prefer 18" the ride is just better
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Well no extra holes is a plus, but most people I mentioned that to, as well as myself, believe that once you start drilling a wheel it get weaker. Plus it's extra money. Just make them in that size !
Now, I'm not condoning redrilling, because obviously everyone would buy wheels in the correct bolt pattern if they were available, but a lot of OEM wheels utilize the same technology that a redrilled wheel would. They just open up the hole a bit more and press in a steel lug seat that is in the new bolt pattern. Here's a picture of an OEM Acura wheel for reference.



Right at the bottom of the lug area, is the same type of steel insert. Altering the lug area is not advised, but I've never heard of any wheel failing from a redrill that's done properly. I've even put some redrilled wheels on my own car.
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Now, I'm not condoning redrilling, because obviously everyone would buy wheels in the correct bolt pattern if they were available, but a lot of OEM wheels utilize the same technology that a redrilled wheel would. They just open up the hole a bit more and press in a steel lug seat that is in the new bolt pattern. Here's a picture of an OEM Acura wheel for reference.


Right at the bottom of the lug area, is the same type of steel insert. Altering the lug area is not advised, but I've never heard of any wheel failing from a redrill that's done properly. I've even put some redrilled wheels on my own car.
Thanks for the info, and I'm sure I won't have problems with them, but since even you say it is not advised, that's enough to steer me away and just find a wheel in the right size and lug pattern.
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