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      10-11-2007, 01:02 PM   #23
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see and that is my worry i don't want codes faults probs....i don't understand how a company can come out with a $1500 tune that works sometimes and puts out codes it seems like crazy...i want a procede sooo bad but i won't buy one till these issues get fixed...i would have thought a year later and shiv banking so much from these and being back ordered up the ass they would have solved these codes from coming up repeatedly...i don't wanna own a tune that costs 1500 and sends codes to my comp every couple days or have any limp code pop up...i just don't get why it has taken sooo long. shiv has the benefit off people's impatience right now!!! throwing codes is totally unacceptable esp for 1500 and a product that has been in development for a year with test cars for every version and and tons of feedback on this and other forums...so what gives why all the codes? why can't they be fixed? oh and i have a nice relationship with my dealer too they said procede sounds great...they wouldn't void the engine but i know some dealers that would
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The sensors on BMW cars are very sensitive. Even with bad gas, you throw all sort of codes on stock form. Even on stock form, you get weird codes thrown sometimes. With the procede, it may or may not throw the codes. But i dont see it being a very big problem unless it goes to limp or stalls. I am sure vishnu will update the maps to circumvent around those fail safe parameters. Its all abt time. At least the performance of V2 is up there now. if really such errors are of critical nature, you sure as hell wont be able to drive it and it would induce a limp. There is not one but a few checks before the engine finally induces a limp to protect the engine from malfunction so unless you are getting that, i'd say you are far from fucking up the N54.
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The sensors on BMW cars are very sensitive. Even with bad gas, you throw all sort of codes on stock form. Even on stock form, you get weird codes thrown sometimes. With the procede, it may or may not throw the codes. But i dont see it being a very big problem unless it goes to limp or stalls. I am sure vishnu will update the maps to circumvent around those fail safe parameters. Its all abt time. At least the performance of V2 is up there now. if really such errors are of critical nature, you sure as hell wont be able to drive it and it would induce a limp. There is not one but a few checks before the engine finally induces a limp to protect the engine from malfunction so unless you are getting that, i'd say you are far from fucking up the N54.
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I guess we're all just getting a little dose of reality here. All along we keep saying you have to pay to play, but then assume we'll never have to worry as the Procede is transparent. That sounds like it is true, unless of course, there are errors being induced. Unfortunately, they are errors that seem less likely on a stock car. We're also seeing some speculation about the reliability of our cars (AT's primarily) with the huge torque loads. (BTW, what ever was that with sflgator's car?) It hasn't stopped me from ordering 2.0.1-.5@4^7 (blah, blah, blah), but I think this has all opened my eyes a little. Thanks Eugen.
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I guess we're all just getting a little dose of reality here. All along we keep saying you have to pay to play, but then assume we'll never have to worry as the Procede is transparent. That sounds like it is true, unless of course, there are errors being induced. Unfortunately, they are errors that seem less likely on a stock car. We're also seeing some speculation about the reliability of our cars (AT's primarily) with the huge torque loads. (BTW, what ever was that with sflgator's car?) It hasn't stopped me from ordering 2.0.1-.5@4^7 (blah, blah, blah), but I think this has all opened my eyes a little. Thanks Eugen.
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I guess we're all just getting a little dose of reality here. All along we keep saying you have to pay to play, but then assume we'll never have to worry as the Procede is transparent. That sounds like it is true, unless of course, there are errors being induced. Unfortunately, they are errors that seem less likely on a stock car. We're also seeing some speculation about the reliability of our cars (AT's primarily) with the huge torque loads. (BTW, what ever was that with sflgator's car?) It hasn't stopped me from ordering 2.0.1-.5@4^7 (blah, blah, blah), but I think this has all opened my eyes a little. Thanks Eugen.
Not to rain on every ones parade again but its not transparent like everyone thinks, there are codes in there that tech cant even see but they can be delete by clearing adaptations, but it doesnít matter anyway bc they donít have a time and date stamp so if it ever went to court it would be thrown out for so many reasons, but if you go into the dealership with it installed you could be shooting yourself in the foot on that one.
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There is a limited buffer for all the events. At least the last 3 occurances of every event type are stored. Keying on/off the car will not help. The events are stored until they are deleted or the FIFO ( first in - first out ) logic kicks them out.

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I can't erase the codes with the creader?
C-Reader tool can't clear limp mode faults.
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see and that is my worry i don't want codes faults probs....i don't understand how a company can come out with a $1500 tune that works sometimes and puts out codes it seems like crazy...i want a procede sooo bad but i won't buy one till these issues get fixed...i would have thought a year later and shiv banking so much from these and being back ordered up the ass they would have solved these codes from coming up repeatedly...i don't wanna own a tune that costs 1500 and sends codes to my comp every couple days or have any limp code pop up...i just don't get why it has taken sooo long. shiv has the benefit off people's impatience right now!!! throwing codes is totally unacceptable esp for 1500 and a product that has been in development for a year with test cars for every version and and tons of feedback on this and other forums...so what gives why all the codes? why can't they be fixed? oh and i have a nice relationship with my dealer too they said procede sounds great...they wouldn't void the engine but i know some dealers that would


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I guess we're all just getting a little dose of reality here. All along we keep saying you have to pay to play, but then assume we'll never have to worry as the Procede is transparent. That sounds like it is true, unless of course, there are errors being induced. Unfortunately, they are errors that seem less likely on a stock car. We're also seeing some speculation about the reliability of our cars (AT's primarily) with the huge torque loads. (BTW, what ever was that with sflgator's car?) It hasn't stopped me from ordering 2.0.1-.5@4^7 (blah, blah, blah), but I think this has all opened my eyes a little. Thanks Eugen.
What happened w sflgator's car?
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C-Reader tool can't clear limp mode faults.
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Hi guys,

As announced I have been at my dealership today.

I have a PROcede V2 in the car and am the guy who had a limp mode with V2 map 2.0.0 hitting the speed limiter.

The error has been:

30FE - turbo pressure too high ( @ 6208rpm )

Now, we had another issue with the PROcede V2 on newer cars, the expected switched power fuse was not there. I investigated in this last weekend and found a solution.

Thread: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88087

Since I hooked up the PROcede V2 to this power source, the 2DED powermanagement warning disappeared as well. Of course, I had this error stored from the 2 days when the PROcede was hooked up to the 50 AMP fuse directly, but there were no entries since the PROcede V2 is hooked up to the new switched power source described in the thread.

I don't know whether Shiv is using this source with his new jumper cable, but if he does we will see no more power drain warnings as well.

BTW, I did a lot of PROcede V2 testing since the one week I have it in the car. The reported issue has been the only one on my side. The car feels great and very strong. Since others had no problems with map V2.0.1 as well, it would be great if Shiv could make different V2.0.1 maps for MT and AT cars again.

Enjoy your great PROcede V2 product ! I hope Shiv will ship out a bunch of V2 upgrades soon.

In other words, PROcede V2 is 100% invisible to the BMW service computer when you have no limp mode .

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interesting

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