E90Post
 


Bimmer Retrofit
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > Installed MSDS stage 1 intake!!



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      10-13-2007, 03:15 PM   #1
down4it
Banned
United_States
37
Rep
1,743
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (3)

Installed MSDS stage 1 intake!!

Let me start off by saying thank you very much to Marty and MSDS Inc. for making such a great product for our 335's!!

It took me about 15 minutes to install this intake, its very simple and straight foward... Just pull off the stock airbox and you have a lot more room to work with... Then just put the piping in and your good!

So i did a few back to back runs and then opened the hood right away to check the temp of the piping and filter, the stock plastic airbox is always hot but this piping is cool... You can feel a good gain in power from 5500-7000rpm and the motor screams a lot louder than the stock airbox with my ITG filter in it...

Here are some pics of the system installed!
Attached Images
   
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 04:04 PM   #2
abmw
Private First Class
abmw's Avatar
4
Rep
132
Posts

Drives: 335xi Coupe
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: MN

iTrader: (0)

Nice!! What was the cost? What would you say the gain was if you had to guess?
__________________
2008 335xi Coupe - Sapphire Black, Black Dakota, Gray Poplar, Premium, Sport, Cold Weather, Steptronic/Paddles, Comfort Access, HD, IPOD.
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 04:12 PM   #3
zenmaster
Lieutenant Colonel
United_States
20
Rep
1,641
Posts

Drives: '13 AH3
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Atlanta

iTrader: (1)

What are the differences in air flow rate and in air temp out of this unit and out of the stock airbox?
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 05:32 PM   #4
crimsone90
Banned
4
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: MR E92 M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Heaven

iTrader: (0)

This is just a pipe with a filter. How is this supposed to increased powder? I would love to know MSDS engineering explaination of how this intake works.
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 05:36 PM   #5
down4it
Banned
United_States
37
Rep
1,743
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by abmw View Post
Nice!! What was the cost? What would you say the gain was if you had to guess?
Check www.msdsinc.com
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 05:39 PM   #6
oddjob2021
ASR Turbos+LSD+Meth= :D
oddjob2021's Avatar
25
Rep
1,517
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Miami, FL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2007 E92 335i  [0.00]
nice looks great! i may do an intake upgrade soon too... i wanna see first what other companies have to offer.

EDIT: oh btw.. you still have the port that the turbo tuner plugs into right? its right below the stock airbox.
__________________

2007 335i Coupe
Mods: Check the Garage
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 05:40 PM   #7
down4it
Banned
United_States
37
Rep
1,743
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsone90 View Post
This is just a pipe with a filter. How is this supposed to increased powder? I would love to know MSDS engineering explaination of how this intake works.
Ok not only can you not spell but that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard!!! Its a pipe with a filter??? Thats like saying a good exhaust system is just some pipes mith some mufflers... I mean thats just what it is... What were you expecting? The airflow is increased significantly so more air and fuel equals power right or powder as you called it... This intake isnt the Messiah of power gains but every little thing helps and it got an extra 12whp on the dyno so thats good for me!
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 05:47 PM   #8
CanadianTSi
Second Lieutenant
CanadianTSi's Avatar
Canada
3
Rep
240
Posts

Drives: 2010 335xi M Sport
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Alberta

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsone90 View Post
This is just a pipe with a filter. How is this supposed to increased powder? I would love to know MSDS engineering explaination of how this intake works.
Yep, its basically the same as any other Intake ever made...
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 05:49 PM   #9
tek818
Lieutenant Colonel
57
Rep
1,901
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MW/SO
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2015 F82 M4  [0.00]
i wanna hear dat shit...
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 05:57 PM   #10
e90AW335i
Major General
United_States
83
Rep
6,608
Posts

Drives: e90 335i
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: ......

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by AB Tek 818 View Post
i wanna hear dat shit...
wanna hear dat shit....huh
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 05:59 PM   #11
j|rz44
Lieutenant Colonel
22
Rep
1,685
Posts

Drives: 335i|E92
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Lost

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
07 335i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by down4it View Post
Ok not only can you not spell but that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard!!! Its a pipe with a filter??? Thats like saying a good exhaust system is just some pipes mith some mufflers... I mean thats just what it is... What were you expecting? The airflow is increased significantly so more air and fuel equals power right or powder as you called it... This intake isnt the Messiah of power gains but every little thing helps and it got an extra 12whp on the dyno so thats good for me!
you crack me up man....
i might have to jump on one of these.
__________________
Life is Good
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 06:04 PM   #12
tek818
Lieutenant Colonel
57
Rep
1,901
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MW/SO
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2015 F82 M4  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyleh4852 View Post
wanna hear dat shit....huh
...I'm not too familiar with performance mods for a crown vic , but on BMWs, mods like intake change the sound of the car. Seeing as how the OP is a friend, I was simply stating that I am looking forward to hearing the change in sound. Comprende?
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 06:25 PM   #13
down4it
Banned
United_States
37
Rep
1,743
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by AB Tek 818 View Post
...I'm not too familiar with performance mods for a crown vic , but on BMWs, mods like intake change the sound of the car. Seeing as how the OP is a friend, I was simply stating that I am looking forward to hearing the change in sound. Comprende?
If you want to hear it sometime during the week im down!
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 06:53 PM   #14
SfValley335i
Colonel
Afghanistan
61
Rep
2,398
Posts

Drives: Current:135i Sold:335i sedan
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: City of Angels

iTrader: (8)

Send a message via AIM to SfValley335i
too many bends
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 06:54 PM   #15
HyperM3
Too many Alex's, from now on, call me Beaufort
HyperM3's Avatar
United_States
121
Rep
6,169
Posts

Drives: See Sig
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Lawrenceville, NJ

iTrader: (8)

Send a message via AIM to HyperM3 Send a message via Yahoo to HyperM3
I see an aftermarket BOV installed. Seems like theres very little room for the MSDS intake next to it. Is it rubbing?
__________________
13 HD FatBob
14 Audi S6
Audi Brand Specialist @ Princeton Audi
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 06:55 PM   #16
HyperM3
Too many Alex's, from now on, call me Beaufort
HyperM3's Avatar
United_States
121
Rep
6,169
Posts

Drives: See Sig
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Lawrenceville, NJ

iTrader: (8)

Send a message via AIM to HyperM3 Send a message via Yahoo to HyperM3
Quote:
Originally Posted by SfValley335i View Post
too many bends
Yeah, now that I look at the pics, why couldnt the lower intake track come in at the bottom of the pipe? Why did it have to curve all the way up and around to the top?
__________________
13 HD FatBob
14 Audi S6
Audi Brand Specialist @ Princeton Audi
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 07:09 PM   #17
down4it
Banned
United_States
37
Rep
1,743
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SfValley335i View Post
too many bends
Whatever you say... Hows your 335...

Last edited by down4it; 10-13-2007 at 07:38 PM.
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 07:31 PM   #18
crimsone90
Banned
4
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: MR E92 M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Heaven

iTrader: (0)

I would LOVE to hear how an aluminum tubing with a cone type filter with NO HEATSHIELD at all is going to provide an increase in power compared to the OEM intake that is not restricted at all, is completely sealed and does not heatsoak. If this intake gives 12whp then a completely sealed system will give 20WHP! Be real. This intake is getting all the heat from the engine bay and I can be sure a direct comparison between this filter and the OEM will yield very close if not the same airflow.

Maybe your aggresiveness and defensive behavior is due to the simple fact that you do not have an answer for this. Just answer my question as to the reason why this intake increases power to as high as you claim instead of going around and try to ignore my comment.
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 07:47 PM   #19
down4it
Banned
United_States
37
Rep
1,743
Posts

Drives: E92 335i
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by crimsone90 View Post
I would LOVE to hear how an aluminum tubing with a cone type filter with NO HEATSHIELD at all is going to provide an increase in power compared to the OEM intake that is not restricted at all, is completely sealed and does not heatsoak. If this intake gives 12whp then a completely sealed system will give 20WHP! Be real. This intake is getting all the heat from the engine bay and I can be sure a direct comparison between this filter and the OEM will yield very close if not the same airflow.

Maybe your aggresiveness and defensive behavior is due to the simple fact that you do not have an answer for this. Just answer my question as to the reason why this intake increases power to as high as you claim instead of going around and try to ignore my comment.
Anyway, there are dynos showing the gains from this intake on this site, you just have to for it.

I dont think you understand how a turbocharged engine works, i dont want to sit here and educate you about it... But the arguement is over before it could be started, a dyno with the stock airbox compared to an airbox with an ITG drop in filter yeilded 4whp on a dyno with the ITG... This intake got roughly 13whp on a dyno over a stock car so there is some gain, you do not lose power if you gained hp on a dyno right? Ok keep following, In a sealed system you said it yourself, its sealed so its not going to draw in as much air as an open conical air filter will, i would guess thats where the power is coming from... Now show me a dyno from another company that makes a sealed intake for our cars that gains 20whp please...
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 07:48 PM   #20
e90AW335i
Major General
United_States
83
Rep
6,608
Posts

Drives: e90 335i
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: ......

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by AB Tek 818 View Post
...I'm not too familiar with performance mods for a crown vic , but on BMWs, mods like intake change the sound of the car. Seeing as how the OP is a friend, I was simply stating that I am looking forward to hearing the change in sound. Comprende?
Yep, I understood dat shit.....
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 07:51 PM   #21
crimsone90
Banned
4
Rep
270
Posts

Drives: MR E92 M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Heaven

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by down4it View Post
Ohh no it has nothing to do with the product buddy, i hate that guy Sfvalley335i... He has said some disturbing things in the past on this board that has led others and myself to believe he really is a terrorist...

Anyway, there are dynos showing the gains from this intake on this site, you just have to for it.

I dont think you understand how a turbocharged engine works, i dont want to sit here and educate you about it... But the arguement is over before it could be started, a dyno with the stock airbox compared to an airbox with an ITG drop in filter yeilded 4whp on a dyno with the ITG... This intake got roughly 13whp on a dyno over a stock car so there is some gain, you do not lose power if you gained hp on a dyno right? Ok keep following, In a sealed system you said it yourself, its sealed so its not going to draw in as much air as an open conical air filter will, i would guess thats where the power is coming from... Now show me a dyno from another company that makes a sealed intake for our cars that gains 20whp please...

Ok. I`ll get some pipes from home depot and weld them together and put in a filter. Should do 12Whp easily! Their CAI is something very ingenious and I might actually look after it but this is
Appreciate 0
      10-13-2007, 08:05 PM   #22
Panoz
Lieutenant Colonel
Panoz's Avatar
28
Rep
1,575
Posts

Drives: E92 Space Grey 335i ,Aero Kit
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: EU

iTrader: (0)

I dont know if its good...but its surely ungly!!
__________________

Procede V4 , Catless DPs, Forge FMIC, Injen Intake, VK Oilcooler, Hartge Quads Exhaust, Modded CDV, Synapse BOV Kit, BMW Performance 335i SSK Kit, P3 vent boost gauge

Space Grey 335i -> See more pics HERE
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:17 AM.




e90post
e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST