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      10-26-2007, 04:35 AM   #221
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what if you use micro fiber towels and quick detailer many times a day, for example: taking a short drive to and from school where you just get a TINY TINY bit of dust on the car. Is it safe to wipe that tiny bit of dust off. I've been quick detailing my car multiple times a day for quite some time now. I dont allow the dust to build up
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      10-26-2007, 10:38 AM   #222
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Oooh, that's too risky for me. It all depends on how much risk you want to take, but even short drives cover your car with contaminants that you would then be rubbing into your clearcoat, potentially resulting in fine scratches.

I recently finished polishing both my cars - 1 w/ ZPC, and the other with Menzerna SIP and a bit more aggressive pad (w/ my PC random orbit polisher), and there is no way I would do anything other than wash my car after even a short drive. Not worth it considering the effort I put into my polishing to remove all such scratches.

This certainly depends on the individual and the results you wish to achieve, but MY PERSONAL rule of thumb - if I drive my car, then I wash it.
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      10-26-2007, 11:39 AM   #223
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i forgot to buy ZPC with my Zaino purchase. some info, i don't have a machine to use along with ZPC. i don't think i have any major noticeable swirl marks that i know of. is it ok to go from wash, clay, skip ZPC, to Z2/Z5...? do you think i should order the ZPC? i just ordered earlier Z2, Z5, Z6, Z7, Z8, Z10, Z18, and ZFX. first time ever detailing here nub.
It sounds like you don't need it. You can go straight to Z2/Z5 with ZFX after the clay step.
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      10-26-2007, 11:40 AM   #224
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what if you use micro fiber towels and quick detailer many times a day, for example: taking a short drive to and from school where you just get a TINY TINY bit of dust on the car. Is it safe to wipe that tiny bit of dust off. I've been quick detailing my car multiple times a day for quite some time now. I dont allow the dust to build up
I personally do not do this as I am paranoid of scratching my paint. IMO, the only way to remove dust/dirt from paint is via a good hand washing.
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what if you use micro fiber towels and quick detailer many times a day, for example: taking a short drive to and from school where you just get a TINY TINY bit of dust on the car. Is it safe to wipe that tiny bit of dust off. I've been quick detailing my car multiple times a day for quite some time now. I dont allow the dust to build up
I do this to both my silver and black cars. However, I agree with David, the best way is to hand wash. Personally, I tend to strike of balance of risk, time and car's beauty condition. Black car can be more risky to get more visible scratches using detailer, but then it really depends on the nature of the dirt; as if they were really just a layer of dry dust or they are grease. When using detailer, I tend to remove what I think it is removable (with very light buff), mostly the tops parts of the car than the more dirty side skirts. (I also use the 3m mf paper moisted with detailer to remove the first layer of dust.)
Okay, if I ever do the dirty side skirts or lower parts of the bumpers and get some minor scratches, so what, they are hardly too visible. Minor scratches will eventually be fixed by sealer or a buffer once a year anyway. Also, I think using detailer in a more frequent basis, I would first start with a really clean car by hand wash and waxed. A clean car tends to catch less dirt if driven on a dry day with clean air and clean roads. And then, I would use detailer in a more frequent basis to maintain the shiness of the car until it is no longer 'maintainable'. My way is not to over-do, that is, when 'dry clean' a car with detailer, just don't expect the car will be as 'clean' as a real hand wash and don't leave the car unattended for too long before a 'dry clean'. I always keep two types of 'detailers', one is very thin such as Mothers Showtime, another is slightly thicker such as a Spray Wax; and I will always apply the thinner one if I think a thicker spray wax is more risky. These are just personal habit.
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      11-27-2007, 06:53 PM   #226
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I am going to place an order soon and want to make sure I have everything. Would you mind looking over the following and letting me know if I need anything else and/or recommend anything?

wash - Mothers California Gold wash

wash mitt - (2) sheepskin

towels - pack of cheap cotton towels / (2) MF waffle weave towels / normal MF towels for removing polish/sealant, windows, etc?

clay - mothers or clay magic (which grade, fine or medium)?

mild polish - Klasse All In One (AIO)

sealant - Klasse Sealant Glaze (SG)

quick detailer - needed?

tire dressing - Mothers Reflections Tire Shine (Low Gloss)

applicator - (2) foam pad w/ terry/cotton on surface


Thanks, dave
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      11-28-2007, 10:28 AM   #227
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What intention do you have for the "cheap" cotton towels? If you plan to keep things nice, I wouldn't use anything with the word cheap in it. Even for wiping wheels/rims, a cheap towel can mar the finish.
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      11-28-2007, 11:09 AM   #228
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What intention do you have for the "cheap" cotton towels? If you plan to keep things nice, I wouldn't use anything with the word cheap in it. Even for wiping wheels/rims, a cheap towel can mar the finish.


I read that in the original post to clean door jambs, and just nasty areas in general. Still would be 100% cotton... or I can just pick up some general purpose MF towels
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      11-28-2007, 04:35 PM   #229
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I always think in terms of exterior only, so maybe for the carpet? I always use whatever I'm using on the outside to wipe the bit of water out of the jambs. Not the sealant that drips out of the door, but everything else.
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      12-05-2007, 06:03 PM   #230
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I am going to place an order soon and want to make sure I have everything. Would you mind looking over the following and letting me know if I need anything else and/or recommend anything?

wash - Mothers California Gold wash

wash mitt - (2) sheepskin

towels - pack of cheap cotton towels / (2) MF waffle weave towels / normal MF towels for removing polish/sealant, windows, etc?

clay - mothers or clay magic (which grade, fine or medium)?

mild polish - Klasse All In One (AIO)

sealant - Klasse Sealant Glaze (SG)

quick detailer - needed?

tire dressing - Mothers Reflections Tire Shine (Low Gloss)

applicator - (2) foam pad w/ terry/cotton on surface


Thanks, dave
Everything looks good. For the clay, I'd go for fine grade. For QD, I'd just pick up a bottle of Mothers or Meguiars for the auto parts store. It can be used to clean up bird bombs between washing. Your towel list looks good as well. Use the cheap ones for door jambs as said.
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      01-02-2008, 10:32 AM   #231
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Question... I'm going to take delivery on my 335xi in the next two weeks. I live in Salt Lake City, Utah (snow, ice, salted roads etc...). What advice do you have regarding detailing or other steps that should be taken to protect the finish this winter? It is quite cold here, so I don't anticipate many days where I could pull the garden hose out to wash and detail my car!

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Interior garage, or an enclosed truck wash place? May be worth it to find a detailer in your area and let him/her freeze their hands instead of yours, to protect things until spring. Have the detailer do the washing, then move the car into a garage and apply the sealants yourself before exposing to the elements again.
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Interior garage, or an enclosed truck wash place? May be worth it to find a detailer in your area and let him/her freeze their hands instead of yours, to protect things until spring. Have the detailer do the washing, then move the car into a garage and apply the sealants yourself before exposing to the elements again.
Great info, thanks! Would it not be advisable for me to have the detailer apply the sealant to the car as well? With all the crud on the streets, I can't imagine that I could get the car home and not have to wash it again before sealing it.
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Question... I'm going to take delivery on my 335xi in the next two weeks. I live in Salt Lake City, Utah (snow, ice, salted roads etc...). What advice do you have regarding detailing or other steps that should be taken to protect the finish this winter? It is quite cold here, so I don't anticipate many days where I could pull the garden hose out to wash and detail my car!

Thanks for the info!
My best advice, don't worry too much about it this winter. I'm sure the dealer will put some cheap silicone laden spray wax on your car before they deliver it to you. That should be decent enough to get you through to beginning of April. Then you can do the full detail yourself.
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Thanks for the advice! So it looks like I'll just have the car washed (touchless), with no towel-drying for now, and will look to do a full detailing when the weather permits.

I appreciate the advice here! Cheers.
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Can Klasse products be found in big retailers such as Target or Walmart? or do I have to order online?
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Can Klasse products be found in big retailers such as Target or Walmart? or do I have to order online?

I only found online. If you decide to go that route, send me a PM as I will sell you a brand new kit for $50 (never used / paid $65 + shipping).

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hey dave, does it include the AIO and the HGSG? what sizes? type of shipping included? paypal accepted? thanks.
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hey dave, does it include the AIO and the HGSG? what sizes? type of shipping included? paypal accepted? thanks.


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im going to be detailing my car in about 2 months and i want to make sure i have the right list from right now. I have decided to go with zaino because it seems like most people prefer it over klasse and because it lasts longer. tell me what you think of my list:

Z2 pro
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As for polishing for swirls i dont know what im going to do because i cant really afford to buy a pc. Is it ok if i let a friends dad polish it for me with something thats not a zaino product?

Also, tell me anyways to save money if possible.

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Hey man, thanks a lot! received the Klasse kit today from Fedex.

I couldn't wait so just dusted my relatively clean car and "washed" it with a bucket of warm water and a cap of AIO. That thing is so easy! Then just AIO and later the Sealant high gloss. It works pretty good, I'm happy with the results. The only problem is that I don't wanna drive it anymore cuz it will get dirty
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im going to be detailing my car in about 2 months and i want to make sure i have the right list from right now. I have decided to go with zaino because it seems like most people prefer it over klasse and because it lasts longer. tell me what you think of my list:

Z2 pro
zfx
z8
zcs

As for polishing for swirls i dont know what im going to do because i cant really afford to buy a pc. Is it ok if i let a friends dad polish it for me with something thats not a zaino product?

Also, tell me anyways to save money if possible.
Having it polished with something other than Zaino is fine. Just to a wipedownw ith a mix of alcohal and water 1:1 before you begin any of your zaino steps.

One thing I would highly suggest is making sure your friends dad knows what he is doing. JOY
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