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      11-06-2007, 11:36 PM   #221
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im sure they will last to a certain degree but trying to imply that these turbos will have a life anywhere near what they would normally have is ludicrous.
Not sure who was implying this. Any mechanical part that gets more stress will break sooner than it would under less stressful conditions. Kind of obvious and useless to point out. What we want to know are things like what how the same or similar part(s) performed in the past under certain conditions.
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      11-06-2007, 11:42 PM   #222
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Im not searching for the thread they posted it in vaguely..........PM them, they will gladly tell you, ask them questions about the limits they believe the turbos have on the 335i................they are pretty helpful, or go to ICSPERFORMANCE.com and get their phone number and talk to brian...........they I THINK are trying to create a FLASH for this car, that can be a CUSTOM TUNE, because the guy they are working with in Europe breaks all of the BMW ECU's..............talk to the professionals, obviously Vishnu is not available
Now you are vague? Either it was posted or not I do not need to call anyone I have read the majority of posts here. If such an event had happened and was posted here everyone would have been on it like flys on shit.
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Not sure who was implying this. Any mechanical part that gets more stress will break sooner than it would under less stressful conditions. Kind of obvious and useless to point out. What we want to know are things like what how the same or similar part(s) performed in the past under certain conditions.
a moot point that many people are overlooking....400whp and 400wtq...with no other sig. upgrades..60-70k miles=..


dont take me wrong...this is one hell of a car...but, 470hp crank? and 470tq? those numbers are stoopid
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Now you are vague? Either it was posted or not I do not need to call anyone I have read the majority of posts here. If such an event had happened and was posted here everyone would have been on it like flys on shit.

HE MENTIONED IT IN A POST............im not ur secretary and need go find it for you, if you want PRIVATE MESSAGE (PM) him like i said............
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      11-06-2007, 11:53 PM   #225
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Im not searching for the thread they posted it in vaguely..........PM them, they will gladly tell you, ask them questions about the limits they believe the turbos have on the 335i................they are pretty helpful, or go to ICSPERFORMANCE.com and get their phone number and talk to brian...........they I THINK are trying to create a FLASH for this car, that can be a CUSTOM TUNE, because the guy they are working with in Europe breaks all of the BMW ECU's..............talk to the professionals, obviously Vishnu is not available
interesting...I dont see anyone from ICS or AA coming on here and spilling information.
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interesting...I dont see anyone from ICS or AA coming on here and spilling information.

Never said they would spill information did i ??
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bimmermans54 said something to the effect of AA blowing a turbo trying to boost 18 lbs.
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interesting...I dont see anyone from ICS or AA coming on here and spilling information.
What I see is another RUMOR SPREADER.
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ITS NOT A RUMOR, AA BLEW A TURBO IN THEIR R&D, CALL THEM YOURSELVES, there is a good possibility Vishnu will blow one also within the next year too..........if he hasn't already and never said anything
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ITS NOT A RUMOR, AA BLEW A TURBO IN THEIR R&D, CALL THEM YOURSELVES, there is a good possibility Vishnu will blow one also within the next year too..........if he hasn't already and never said anything
I'm friends with him and live a few miles from him, I haven't seen his car out of commission or heard anything of that nature, he doesn't run 18psi to get these numbers either i don't believe... more like 16 I think? I see them driving this car around all the time, it has like 25k miles on it :P
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ITS NOT A RUMOR, AA BLEW A TURBO IN THEIR R&D, CALL THEM YOURSELVES, there is a good possibility Vishnu will blow one also within the next year too..........if he hasn't already and never said anything
We have not blown any turbos. Nor do we expect to anytime soon. But if we do, we'll let you guys know

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We have not blown any turbos. Nor do we expect to anytime soon. But if we do, we'll let you guys know

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so can you put out some better numbers about what u were running to get this power out put, Boost numbers, compression ratios and what not???????????????

Also I'll guess you blow a turbo within a year, if you run 400+whp day in and day out which im assuming ur not since you probably aren't runniing 100 octane everytime...............
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Why does everyone say blow an engine, THE TURBOS will go before the engine goes. I wouldn't doubt the possibility of Vishnu blowing a turbo, especially with AA in their R&D having blown one............

I guess everyone includes you.

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so can you put out some better numbers about what u were running to get this power out put, Boost numbers, compression ratios and what not???????????????

Also I'll guess you blow a turbo within a year, if you run 400+whp day in and day out which im assuming ur not since you probably aren't runniing 100 octane everytime...............
Really??????????????
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so can you put out some better numbers about what u were running to get this power out put, Boost numbers, compression ratios and what not???????????????

Also I'll guess you blow a turbo within a year, if you run 400+whp day in and day out which im assuming ur not since you probably aren't runniing 100 octane everytime...............
Why don't you enlighten us as to what will cause the turbo to blow since you are so insistent that it will occur...? Have you ever thought that the difference may be that AA doesn't have nearly as much turbo tuning experience? *crickets*
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Power shifting is a complete different topic, compared to the gradual tunning of an engine and things going wrong, the turbos will go bad before the engine when tunning, but with power shifting and seriously misshifting can lead to engine combustion........
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Power shifting is a complete different topic, compared to the gradual tunning of an engine and things going wrong, the turbos will go bad before the engine when tunning, but with power shifting and seriously misshifting can lead to engine combustion........
rev limiters tend to stop engines from blowing while power shifting....
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Why don't you enlighten us as to what will cause the turbo to blow since you are so insistent that it will occur...? Have you ever thought that the difference may be that AA doesn't have nearly as much turbo tuning experience? *crickets*
I think that part where he asked what compression ratio they were running made is glaringly obvious he has no idea.
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Why don't you enlighten us as to what will cause the turbo to blow since you are so insistent that it will occur...? Have you ever thought that the difference may be that AA doesn't have nearly as much turbo tuning experience? *crickets*

Too much boost plain and simple, plus the wear and tear in the LONG
RUN (not 5 weeks of research and development at these levels)
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Too much boost plain and simple, plus the wear and tear in the LONG
RUN (not 5 weeks of research and development at these levels)
Really? It is as simple as too much boost? Because "boost" is completely subjective to engine load and RPMs, it is nowhere near as simple as "too much boost".
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I think that part where he asked what compression ratio they were running made is glaringly obvious he has no idea.

I meant to say pressure ratios....
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Really? It is as simple as too much boost? Because "boost" is completely subjective to engine load and RPMs, it is nowhere near as simple as "too much boost".

I never said that was the only reason just said running too much boost can be a direct correlation of blowing the turbo.........
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