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      11-13-2007, 09:42 AM   #23
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That is fantastic times. 12.8 on RFT is awesome with just the V1.47. Congrtas indeed!! By the way, good pictures.
You used to have a renault 5 turbo? didnt realise they went to the US, cool old skool car.. I have a Fiesta RS turbo in storage!
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But its a vette



Surely a well launched manual car will be quicker than a well launched Step, just STep is easier to launch??

Would you mind sticking your pic and slip in my thread sniz buddy?


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ok its posted, and no.....a step will be a better launch. Thats why you see all real drag cars are automatics. Especially w/ the turbo cars you can build boost by brake boosting and then let it rip. You can only build boost on the line w/ a manual by loading against your ebrake which is pretty tricky and has to wear out some parts.

Pics and slip posted on your thread!
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ok its posted, and no.....a step will be a better launch. Thats why you see all real drag cars are automatics. Especially w/ the turbo cars you can build boost by brake boosting and then let it rip. You can only build boost on the line w/ a manual by loading against your ebrake which is pretty tricky and has to wear out some parts.

Pics and slip posted on your thread!
i agree with the brake boosting theory, but manaul gear changes are much faster!

RE: my Drag time post

Good man, thankyou

Keep up the good work


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i agree with the brake boosting theory, but manaul gear changes are much faster!
A well built Auto will shift faster than any human can, also in an auto you never let off the gas therefore your never out of boost.
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ok its posted, and no.....a step will be a better launch. Thats why you see all real drag cars are automatics. Especially w/ the turbo cars you can build boost by brake boosting and then let it rip. You can only build boost on the line w/ a manual by loading against your ebrake which is pretty tricky and has to wear out some parts.

Pics and slip posted on your thread!
Not true there my friend. The 2-step is available to turbo cars to build boost off the line and are very common in the supra community for manual cars.
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Not true there my friend. The 2-step is available to turbo cars to build boost off the line and are very common in the supra community for manual cars.
ah yes, many were running those on the built BMW's yesterday. I was referring to a more "stock" car.
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But its a vette
damn right it's a Vette...
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damn right it's a Vette...
hell yes its a vette! I'd trade my 335 for that Z06 anyday of the week and twice on Sunday's. Jamie (owner of the Z06) is one hell of a driver getting an 11 flat out of it. He also had a best of a 10.83 in his Porsche GT2 on the stock turbo's. He made the most passes of the day....he's an animal and very intense about dragging. He also has a 700hp Ford GT and several unreal muscle cars including a 427 '67 Vette. Droooooool.

His GT from last months event



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hell yes its a vette! I'd trade my 335 for that Z06 anyday of the week and twice on Sunday's. Jamie (owner of the Z06) is one hell of a driver getting an 11 flat out of it. He also had a best of a 10.83 in his Porsche GT2 on the stock turbo's. He made the most passes of the day....he's an animal and very intense about dragging. He also has a 700hp Ford GT and several unreal muscle cars including a 427 '67 Vette. Droooooool.

His GT from last months event



that's a nice stable of cars, I need his job....:sad0147:
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Sniz - if you would trade your 335 for the Z06, I hope you would track the hell out of it. If you didn't you would kick yourself in the ass "everyday of the week and twice on Sundays" for getting rid of the 335.

I just sold my '07 Z06. Very nice car but can't compare to the 335 in terms of build quality, comfort, multi purpose use, interior, etc. A 335 with a V2 piggyback is more than enough power for spirited everyday driving and a few runs a year at the track.

The only way I would own another one is if I tracked the car (road course) at least 20 times a year. Just not a very good DD. I never got close to utilizing all of the car's ability for fear of going to jail.

Having said all of that, the car is absolutely insane fast right off the showroom floor!!!......and it looks damn good too. Too bad it doesn't have the refinement of a Euro.
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Sniz - if you would trade your 335 for the Z06, I hope you would track the hell out of it. If you didn't you would kick yourself in the ass "everyday of the week and twice on Sundays" for getting rid of the 335.

I just sold my '07 Z06. Very nice car but can't compare to the 335 in terms of build quality, comfort, multi purpose use, interior, etc. A 335 with a V2 piggyback is more than enough power for spirited everyday driving and a few runs a year at the track.

The only way I would own another one is if I tracked the car (road course) at least 20 times a year. Just not a very good DD. I never got close to utilizing all of the car's ability for fear of going to jail.

Having said all of that, the car is absolutely insane fast right off the showroom floor!!!......and it looks damn good too. Too bad it doesn't have the refinement of a Euro.

Good write up, BMW for me is the better car, even if it aint as quick!!

I am confused whether your saying the zo6 handles better? SURELY NOT
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Kind of wierd, except for the petrol pricing, the Z-06 makes more sense in Germany than in the states. I am a little surprised that GM does not do more intensive marketing of the vette in Euro.

Cool pics, especially capturing the tire wrinkling.
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I'm pretty sure this is Scott's 996TT. If it had BBS wheels, it was definitely his. It's a Protomotive tuned car and he's pushing close to 1000HP on rear wheel drive. (removed the front drive axle).
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I'm pretty sure this is Scott's 996TT. If it had BBS wheels, it was definitely his. It's a Protomotive tuned car and he's pushing close to 1000HP on rear wheel drive. (removed the front drive axle).
thats the best thing he could have done, AWESOME
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I'm pretty sure this is Scott's 996TT. If it had BBS wheels, it was definitely his. It's a Protomotive tuned car and he's pushing close to 1000HP on rear wheel drive. (removed the front drive axle).
this guy was on an upsolute tune. He had somewhere in the ballpark of 5xxawhp.

I wish it was the 1000hp Promotive car! That would be sick to see .
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Good write up, BMW for me is the better car, even if it aint as quick!!

I am confused whether your saying the zo6 handles better? SURELY NOT
The Z06 will stomp any BMW on a road course. Stock for stock of course.

the old days of vette's being straight line cars only are long gone.

I also agree w/ the 335 being a much better daily driver.....no question there
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Good write up, BMW for me is the better car, even if it aint as quick!!

I am confused whether your saying the zo6 handles better? SURELY NOT

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The Z06 will stomp any BMW on a road course. Stock for stock of course.

the old days of vette's being straight line cars only are long gone.

I also agree w/ the 335 being a much better daily driver.....no question there
+1, the old days of Vette's being only straight line cars disappeared at least 10-15 years ago.

There's no arguing the 335 would be a better daily driver then a Z06 but a better track car, please put down the crack pipe. The new M3 is the only stock BMW with a fighting chance on the track against a C6 Vette w/Z51 costing $47K much less a $70-75K Z06, equal drivers of course. There are few cars that a Z06 can't beat on the track and those cars typically cost at least 2-3X what the Z06 does. The new Corvettes are both straight line and road course demons and you really can't beat the performance for the price.
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+1, the old days of Vette's being only straight line cars disappeared at least 10-15 years ago.

There's no arguing the 335 would be a better daily driver then a Z06 but a better track car, please put down the crack pipe. The new M3 is the only stock BMW with a fighting chance on the track against C6 w/Z51 costing $47K much less a $70-75K Z06, equal drivers of course. There are few cars that a Z06 can't beat on the track and those cars typically cost at least 2-3X what the Z06 does. The C6 and Z06 are both straight line and road course demons and you really can't beat the performance for the price.
I want an aerial atom as my track car.........
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no kidding. That's one fun car.
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The comments about the Z06's handling are dead on. Mine handled phenominally (not as good as my CaymanS though). The car is set up off the showroom floor to be a track star.....and it is.

I looked at it this way --- 95% of my time driving is DD and the 335 is the better choice (plus I saved about $30K). Also, from time to time I have to haul a client or two around.

If I had the means, I'd own both.
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The comments about the Z06's handling are dead on. Mine handled phenominally (not as good as my CaymanS though). The car is set up off the showroom floor to be a track star.....and it is.

I looked at it this way --- 95% of my time driving is DD and the 335 is the better choice (plus I saved about $30K). Also, from time to time I have to haul a client or two around.

If I had the means, I'd own both.
is this the new Z06 or the past few ones? i do not know much about vettes unfortunately..?! i know a Z06 came out what 03 ? is this the same car you are talking about??

i did however believe they were shite on track, but obviosuly not
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