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      12-02-2007, 05:58 PM   #45
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You'll be staying f--ing stock if you don't answer that friggin PM Carlos!
How hard is it you muppet
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Hotcoupe are you and Carltorquesteer getting an enhancement this week?
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Well I'm getting an engine upgrade on the 11th,Carlos is having a penile displacement if he fails to respond to the PM!
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Well I'm getting an engine upgrade on the 11th,Carlos is having a penile displacement if he fails to respond to the PM!
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what a load of bollox, they comparing the vxr8 to an m5, then race it against a 530i not mentioning that fact, but just say its quicker! YES IT IS quicker than a 530. But not a gallardo eating M5
But did you see how the 5 annihilated the Audi and Merc?
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      12-02-2007, 06:39 PM   #50
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335i v VXR8

VXR8
Engine 6.0-litre V8 petrol
Power (bhp) 411 @ 6,000
Torque (lb/ft) 406 @ 4,400
0-60mph (secs) 4.9
Top speed (mph) TBC
Combined MPG 18.5
CO2 (g/km)/tax (%) 365/35
List price 35,105

335i
Power (bhp) 306 @ 5,800
Torque (lb/ft) 295 @ 1,300
0-62mph (secs) 5.6
Top speed (mph) 155 (limited)
Combined MPG 31.0
CO2 (g/km)/tax (%) 218/31
List price 34,360

http://cars.uk.msn.com/Reviews/artic...mentid=6827803
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      12-02-2007, 06:59 PM   #51
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Good comparison in EVO a couple of months ago.

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335i v VXR8

VXR8
Engine 6.0-litre V8 petrol
Power (bhp) 411 @ 6,000
Torque (lb/ft) 406 @ 4,400
0-60mph (secs) 4.9
Top speed (mph) TBC
Combined MPG 18.5
CO2 (g/km)/tax (%) 365/35
List price 35,105

335i
Power (bhp) 306 @ 5,800
Torque (lb/ft) 295 @ 1,300
0-62mph (secs) 5.6
Top speed (mph) 155 (limited)
Combined MPG 31.0
CO2 (g/km)/tax (%) 218/31
List price 34,360

http://cars.uk.msn.com/Reviews/artic...mentid=6827803
Good comparison in EVO a few months ago as well.

They felt that the 335i was faster.

The VXR8 was also in the evo car of the year edition when again they found that it was not as free revving and zesty as you would expect from a 6 litre V8.
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335i v VXR8

VXR8
Engine 6.0-litre V8 petrol
Power (bhp) 411 @ 6,000
Torque (lb/ft) 406 @ 4,400
0-60mph (secs) 4.9
Top speed (mph) TBC
Combined MPG 18.5
CO2 (g/km)/tax (%) 365/35
List price 35,105

335i
Power (bhp) 306 @ 5,800
Torque (lb/ft) 295 @ 1,300
0-62mph (secs) 5.6
Top speed (mph) 155 (limited)
Combined MPG 31.0
CO2 (g/km)/tax (%) 218/31
List price 34,360

http://cars.uk.msn.com/Reviews/artic...mentid=6827803

Ian, those figures are BMW figures, not actual figures. We all know 335i do 5.2-5.3 easy! A well launched 335d will do 5.5-5.6!!!

I will responday, but we still aint goin to be done before dyno day so ''I will be stock''
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But did you see how the 5 annihilated the Audi and Merc?
Yep, I spotted that. My first thought was "Hardly a fair test, is it" followed by "I wonder how the other three compare" so I was watching that.

I also thought that it was funny that in my own mind, there's no way that the A6 3.2 matches the 530i for class. This is not a "BMW beats all" thing, is just that I know the 3.2 was originally the R32 motor, and it just doesn't seem the same as a 530i...
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Here's a good read:

335i v VXR8

VXR8
Engine 6.0-litre V8 petrol
Power (bhp) 411 @ 6,000
Torque (lb/ft) 406 @ 4,400
0-60mph (secs) 4.9
Top speed (mph) TBC
Combined MPG 18.5
CO2 (g/km)/tax (%) 365/35
List price 35,105

335i
Power (bhp) 306 @ 5,800
Torque (lb/ft) 295 @ 1,300
0-62mph (secs) 5.6
Top speed (mph) 155 (limited)
Combined MPG 31.0
CO2 (g/km)/tax (%) 218/31
List price 34,360

http://cars.uk.msn.com/Reviews/artic...mentid=6827803
I wonder why TG ran the 530i then...
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I wonder why TG ran the 530i then...
To make the point THEY wanted to make
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To make the point THEY wanted to make
I think it was a fair comparison really, they were comparing the VXR8 to similarly sized cars available for the price.

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I think it was a fair comparison really, they were comparing the VXR8 to similarly sized cars available for the price.

But they originally mentioned the M5. They compared its performance with the ''Beast of BMW'' and in reality it wouldnt even touch it!
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But they originally mentioned the M5. They compared its performance with the ''Beast of BMW'' and in reality it wouldnt even touch it!
They compared it to the M5, because it's five series sized and it has a 6 litre engine.

They then went on in detail to explain why the M5 was more expensive.

The drag race bit showed that the VXR8 is a bit faster in a straight line than it's peers.

The hot lap pretty much demonstrates that the vauxhall is dynamically weaker than it's competitors. Although in it's defence is it was very wet.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track1.html
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They compared it to the M5, because it's five series sized and it has a 6 litre engine.

They then went on in detail to explain why the M5 was more expensive.

The drag race bit showed that the VXR8 is a bit faster in a straight line than it's peers.

The hot lap pretty much demonstrates that the vauxhall is dynamically weaker than it's competitors. Although in it's defence is it was very wet.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track1.html

Great link thanks

the vaux was a darn sight uglier too!
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Great link thanks

the vaux was a darn sight uglier too!
I quite like the vauxhall, but the last thing I want is an underpowered 6 litre V8.

fastestlaps is a great site. They have the EVO times at bedford as well. Their time for the 330i always cheers me up. It's missing from the list, but it's 1:30 dead .. 0.05 secs behind the M5

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track10.html
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I quite like the vauxhall, but the last thing I want is an underpowered 6 litre V8.

fastestlaps is a great site. They have the EVO times at bedford as well. Their time for the 330i always cheers me up. It's missing from the list, but it's 1:30 dead .. 0.05 secs behind the M5

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track10.html
thats pretty impressive, even tho im sure they were run on different days.. So many factors with track temp, air temp, tyre temp, wind... etc

but still half a second off a beast is mightily impressive!
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thats pretty impressive, even tho im sure they were run on different days.. So many factors with track temp, air temp, tyre temp, wind... etc

but still half a second off a beast is mightily impressive!
Different days and different drivers ... and it was 5/100 not 1/2 a sec.

It's a very short circuit and the very fastest cars only hit 120mph. Speed into the corners is more important than sheer power.

I've driven the Jaguar JP1 at Bedford. I managed 1.20 secs, but the time on fastest laps is a staggering 1.07 secs.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/car471f2983c7cda.html

I won't give up the day job yet.

I drove a Formula Palmer Audi round the same circuit in 1.17 secs and it's nice to think that it was quicker than a Carrera GT, F1 or Enzo (on that particular circuit at least).
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They compared it to the M5, because it's five series sized and it has a 6 litre engine.

They then went on in detail to explain why the M5 was more expensive.

The drag race bit showed that the VXR8 is a bit faster in a straight line than it's peers.

The hot lap pretty much demonstrates that the vauxhall is dynamically weaker than it's competitors. Although in it's defence is it was very wet.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track1.html
Hear, hear. Did you see the inside rear wheel flopping about?
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Hear, hear. Did you see the inside rear wheel flopping about?
But .. why are we all talking about the VXR8?

What about the e90 330i that drives itself (a waste in my opinion) and Hamiltons lap?

8 million viewers apparently:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007...rss&feed=media
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thats what went through my mind. I thought the 335 was in the same bracket
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