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      12-07-2007, 12:32 AM   #1
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Arrow Helix Attaché 335i (Auto) VS PROcede 1.47 335i (6 spd) VIDEO

The 335i with the Procede is the camera car. The black sapphire 335i has the Helix Attaché piggyback. We did a 3rd gear roll from 40-100 and a 3rd gear from 60-120. We tried in second gear from a 40 roll but the weather was so cold the 335i with the Attaché would just spin and auto up shift into 3rd. So we could only do 3rd gear rolls.

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Nice video! Need to get a JB2RH in the mix there....
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DAMN! That's crazy was the PROCEDE even trying? I wanna see the HELIX against the PROCEDE 2.02 from a dig and rolls
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DAMN! That's crazy was the PROCEDE even trying? I wanna see the HELIX against the PROCEDE 2.02 from a dig and rolls
He was on it. I even asked him when I had the window down lol. He was very very very impressed. I can tell you that this tune really throws your stomach into the trunk, lol its wicked fast!
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nice video. it looks like the procede wasn't even trying tho?
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If you guys could get steady 12.00 on the track that would be sick and that makes ur 0-60 like a 3.5
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If you guys could get steady 12.00 on the track that would be sick and that makes ur 0-60 like a 3.5
+1 bring it to the track and record it and then get some videos up vs the v2 and jbs2r
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dayam! looks like instant power...
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Our V2 is supposed to come in - Dont know when, but as soon as it does we will throw it on and run again vs the 335i with Attache. I think we will get some drag time this sat. Depending on how cold it is tho. And the power really does feel instant at 70 MPH in 4th gear you tap the gas a bit and off it goes like a rocket. Its amazing power.
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So yours is still only a prototype right? If so have you noticed any problems? By problems i dont mean somthing major just minor tweaks here and there that you didnt have with your stock car?
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Our V2 is supposed to come in - Dont know when, but as soon as it does we will throw it on and run again vs the 335i with Attache. I think we will get some drag time this sat. Depending on how cold it is tho. And the power really does feel instant at 70 MPH in 4th gear you tap the gas a bit and off it goes like a rocket. Its amazing power.
Very cool, man auto's have really been beatin up on the 6 speeds in these videos as well... you would think the power to the wheel loss would make up for the more agressive gears but it doesn't seem like it... How much is the HELIX again?
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hmmm... very impressive!! Definitely want to see a run with Helix Attaché /PROcede 2.0.2/JBS2R.
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hmmm... very impressive!! Definitely want to see a run with Helix Attaché /PROcede 2.0.2/JBS2R.
CANT WAIT FOR THAT VID !!!!!!!
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thanks for the videos. i wanna see some final dyno runs to compare agnist the PROcede v2 if the helix is really pulling that hard.
for sure, same car same dyno, that would be excellent.
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wow the Helix car looks pretty quick. When will this be available?
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why only 3rd gear rolls if you are rolling from 40?
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Very cool, man auto's have really been beatin up on the 6 speeds in these videos as well... you would think the power to the wheel loss would make up for the more agressive gears but it doesn't seem like it... How much is the HELIX again?
from wht i heard drivetrain loss on the steptronic is no longer that much more than 6mt and the auto also shifts quicker and keeps boost

for your guys' next video u should race two coupes w/ 2 people each w/ the same gas and the same transmission.
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thanks for the videos. i wanna see some final dyno runs to compare agnist the PROcede v2 if the helix is really pulling that hard.
Me too. I am sure the Helix is the best thing since sliced bread and is super cheap, but unless someone is going to back up the videos with dyno charts showing some serious power increases over the well-published PROcede 1.47 dynos, I'm going to have to call the video

The reason is that there's no "magic bullet" here guys. There's nothing significantly different about any of the high-end tunes (except for direct boost control on PROcede V2). So none of them really have an advantage (except gearing between the MT an AT) over the other that would explain how bad the camera car got walked. Which is why this is

The only way that those videos are legit is if the Helix was making at least 40-60whpwhtq more than the camera car (or the camera car was stock). You can't walk a competitor like that without considerably more power - I mean, it wasn't even close.

So, unless this is all BS, stop screwing around and just take the car to a dyno and let's see the numbers!! It's the best way to back up the video and only costs you $60 (at the most).
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PS. FWIW I bet the auto car was starting in 2nd. It downshifts to 2nd every time when you floor it from 40, at least mine does.
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isn't gearing in 3rd for the MT different than gearing in 3rd for AT??
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for sure, same car same dyno, that would be excellent.
I seriously doubt if you're going to get what you're asking for, but I too would like to see it!!!
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The reason is that there's no "magic bullet" here guys. There's nothing significantly different about any of the high-end tunes (except for direct boost control on PROcede V2). So none of them really have an advantage (except gearing between the MT an AT) over the other that would explain how bad the camera car got walked. Which is why this is
Shucks the JB2R IAT manipulation doesn't make the cut as a unique high-end feature?
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