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      07-06-2011, 07:27 PM   #65

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Originally Posted by Tortfeasor 335xi View Post
What is Obama's fault is his inability to get enough votes to pass legislation. Clinton did not have this problem. He was able to make deals with Republicans to pass legislation. A good president can make deals with the other party to pass key legislation. Obama is unable to do this. So through basic logic, he is not a good president.
Oh, OK. You want to play games.

So let's apply that same principle to John "Boner" and the current Republican House.

What Jobs Bill has "The Boner" and the Republican House successfully negotiated to pass through the Senate with his Senate colleagues? Nothing. Nada. Zippo.

What Abortion Bill has The Boner and the Republicans successfully negotiated to pass through the Senate with his Senate colleagues? Nothing. Nada. Zippo.

I can continue on and on and on, since The Boner and the Republican House has been a complete and utter FAILURE according to your standard, with less than 15% of House legislation actually getting passed by the Senate. There has been absolutely NO legislation of any merit. That 15% is mostly silly unsubstantial stuff, like bills to name buildings or declare official days of recognition. Like official Pig-Humping Day in Po-Dunk Nowhere's-ville.

Compare the Republican House's success rates in leading bills through Congress with Obama's:

Obama got the largest Health Care reform passed in modern history. Clinton tried and couldn't pull off this legislation, and you just said Clinton was the guy who had the great skills!!

Obama got Don't Ask, Don't Tell reversal legislation passed, a major historic piece of legislation. Clinton (the guy you said had great skills) was the guy who passed this into law, because he couldn't make as good a deal as Obama made! Clinton didn't want any ban on gays, but he lost and had to sign Don't Ask Don't Tell to avoid a Republican out-right ban on gays in the military. Again, Obama passed the law Clinton couldn't!

Obama got his Economic Stimulus passed, another major piece of legislation.

Obama got the Hate Crime bill passed to expand federal definition to include gender, sexual orientation, gender identity and disability.


And I KNOW you guys hate all this stuff. It all makes you guys twitch uncontrollably. It makes you thrash around on the ground and shout SOCIALIST!!! at the top of your lungs until your tongues bleed. So based on your own definition, Obama's __The Man__ to get these passed.

Clearly the failed politician who can't get anything passed through the Senate via negotiation is John "Boner" and the Republicans. (According to your own made-up standard.) Where's the Jobs Bill, Boner???

Thanks for that handy definition of failure for use against John Boner and the Republicans.

I'm awaiting your name-calling and subject-changing responses with bated-breath.

Last edited by 11Series; 07-06-2011 at 07:45 PM.