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Originally Posted by floydarogers
Motul, Total Quartz, Liqui Moly probably have LL12/whatever oils. I would be surprised if Pentosin doesn't have one, too.
The whole Group IV/PAO are the only "full synthetic" oils is a crap argument. The Shell Helix isn't "full synthetic", because the intermediate isn't Group IV.
It's especially silly when the person making that argument is changing their oil every 5K/7.5K miles, wasting their outdated argument on an outdated desire to change oil more often than the manufacturer recommends.
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I prefer and don't use HC or synthetic technology oils. For similar price points im able to find pao/ester oils/ 100% synthetic. If i start incl group 3 in my selection the field is too large and im not able to effectively filter considering the marketing gimmicks lol