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      02-13-2010, 04:23 PM   #1308

Drives: '04 330i ZHP
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago Burbs

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2004 BMW 330i ZHP  [4.75]
2011 135i  [3.73]
2008 328xi  [4.38]
Originally Posted by BradZTL View Post
I'm going to say you're incorrect there.

I've owned American several cars prior to this BMW and I've spent more time in the dealer for little items than I ever did with my LS1 Firebird Formula, Camaro Z28 (that was a 408ci with 150hp N20 wet kit), and my C5 Z06 that was a also built and used a lot for track duty as well as daily driving. Both the Z28 and Z06 were highly modified cars that rarely had any issues, the Formula was stock except for cat-back and the only issue was a window motor. BMW builds a very good car thats comfortable, and yet fun to drive. However, this car has been more maintenance intensive then any previous car I've owned. I've been into the dealer for HPFP, ignition key issues, steering wheel lock issues, reprogramming to cure other electrical bugs, addition of oil cooler, oil filter adapter leak, transmission shift seal leak, and then just regular maintenance items (brakes, oil, tire rotation). So to say that BMW are more reliable cars, I feel is just plain wrong. Tighter more stringent build tolerances, for the most part yes.
and again I'll respond by saying I was talking about cars all in the same class. Vetts are a different class of car than ANYTHING GM makes. The Z28's my friends had were always having something wrong with them, easy fixes but a lot of time spent on the lift, but again, thats a specific case. There are always going to be American cars that somebody owns that don't have any problems, there are always going to be BMW's people own that have a lot. My parents had 2 Ford Taurus' and 2 Ford Explorers, all of which were in the shop for repair 3-5 times a year, sometimes not fixing the same problem until the 3-4th visit. One of our Explorers was so bad the dealership had to buy it back and give us an Eddie Bauer Edition below invoice. My point is just saying, as a whole and looking at the larger picture outside of just what cars you've owned, BMW's are still a bit more reliable than most American brands - based on the companies entire model line up, not just the 1 or 2 you or I have driven.