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[QUOTE=rkg]Those that have gone to the dealer with this problem, have most just believed you up front and just planned on replacing the lifters? QUOTE] I don't think so. There is a normal lifter noise and there is ticking noise. A lot of people confuse them. Plus as much as we think (at least some of us do) we know all about our cars we are not profesionals (not all of us) and if dealer were to rely on our dignostics and take everybody at their word and impression only they'd be wasting a lot of time and $$. So, I think you have two options here if you want to bring your car for repare: best if you can show them noise while you are there or give them directions/explain when and how on how to replicate it. Just my $0.02. GL
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