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      12-21-2012, 02:41 PM   #100
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Originally Posted by MonsterM View Post

2012 BMW 328i 8 speed auto

0-60 5.6
0-100 14.7
1/4 mile 14.2 @ 98 mph

EPA city/highway driving: 24/36 mpg
C/D observed: 21 mpg

2012 Toyota Camry V6 Auto

0-60 5.8
0-100 14.1
1/4 mile 14.3 @ 101 mph

EPA city/highway driving: 21/30 mpg
C/D observed: 25 mpg

2013 Honda Accord V6 auto

0-60 5.6
0-100 13.9
1/4 mile 14.1 @ 101 mph

EPA city/highway driving: 21/34 mpg
C/D observed: 23 mpg

What is so special about the N20 vs the V6's in terms of straight line acceleration and fuel economy? After 0-60 (FWD) the Camry and Accord have an edge on the 328i, look at trap speed for all three and here is the kicker, look at the observed fuel economy.

Yay, magazine racing!

In your examples, the F30 is faster than the Camry in 0-60 and 1/4, but the Camry traps higher. So that is not a win.

The Accord matches the 0-60, but is quicker in the 1/4 and trap.

The amount faster or not when compared to the MPG advantage of the N20 F30 still holds true. Performance is within a fraction of a percent yet MPG is 10-20% better in the N20. Once again, V-6 performance with 4 cylinder economy. That's the point!

But 5.6 to 60 for the F30 and 14.2 is also the slowest numbers I have seen for an F30.

I can find 5.4 to go and faster than a 14.2. I am just now seeing the Accord and Camry as being FASTER.

Here you go, a nice SILLY 13.9 at 99.5mpg for the F30, magazine racing is fun like that. I can dig up more silly examples of 5.4 to 60 as well.

Outside of magazines, here are BMS' testing numbers.

So this thread about E90 vs F30 is now all about Accords and Camrys being faster in a straight line. Yet the F30 is quite a bit faster than the E90 in a straight line. So your Accords and Camrys being faster than the F30, what are you saying about the E90 again?

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