Mobil-1 vs Shell Helix

M.Etreby · 10-22-2011, 10:03 AM

I just bought an E90 330i 2011 EuroSpec, BMW agent here uses Shell Helix, but some people are advising to use Mobil-1 saying its much better, and reduces engine noise. anybody gone through this comparison before

John 070 · 10-22-2011, 10:21 AM

I thought Mobil1 is not LL-01 approved except for 0W-40 or something, imho skip all the bs and speculation and use BMW oil while under warranty.

galahad05 · 10-22-2011, 10:34 AM

Be careful, there is a Mobil 1 0w40 oil full synthetic (with a very good ester base I understand--better than most synthetics) that is LL-01-spec. But there are plenty of other Mobil 1 synthetics that don't meet LL-01 spec.

I use it for my top-off oil

Apogee · 10-22-2011, 10:55 AM

mobil 1 just isn't what it used to be, they have dropped dramatically the amount of zinc in their oil and as we all know zinc is crucial for turbocharge applications.

D_o_S · 10-22-2011, 12:10 PM

I'm running Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 and loving it! I'm in europe though. 10 C lower oil temps than with Castrol Edge.

galahad05 · 10-22-2011, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Apogee

mobil 1 just isn't what it used to be, they have dropped dramatically the amount of zinc in their oil and as we all know zinc is crucial for turbocharge applications.

This is an interesting point right there.

Any experts on oil quality? Please don't make me go to bobistheoilguy and try to figure things out through all that technical stuff they spout over there.....

Kolyan2k · 10-22-2011, 02:34 PM

Just use Castrol 0w30 fully sync (unlike many M1 sync oils)., approved, and widely available

M.Etreby · 10-23-2011, 04:42 PM

BMW service centers here are uing Shell Helix, they dont get BMW oils, and they used to use Mobil 1 i believe a while back before the e90, but really dont know what changed their minds

John 070 · 10-23-2011, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by galahad05

This is an interesting point right there.

Any experts on oil quality? Please don't make me go to bobistheoilguy and try to figure things out through all that technical stuff they spout over there.....

I know on my other car forum people are sick into oil sending their samples out every oil change to blackstone. They live on the bobistheoilguy website, and Mobil1 is not held in high regard there, despite being factory fills for GM, Porsche, AMG, etc.

Hey, with a rebate it's $39.95 at GM, and it's good enough for me, the car came with it.

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...d_Mobil_1.aspx

Chef NOLA · 10-23-2011, 07:48 PM

I've been running my 2006 E90 330i on a steady diet of Mobil 1 0W40 every 7.5K. Just sent in last sample from 48K to Blackstone and their report came back AAA. Lower wear than average and oil in fine condition. Run the 0W40 in my '04 X5 with same results. The other perfectly fine alternative is BMW's 5W30 (which is Castrol Syntec European).

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galahad05 Brigadier General 158 Rep 3,158 Posts Drives: '07 335i e90 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Long Island NY iTrader: (0)	Be careful, there is a Mobil 1 0w40 oil full synthetic (with a very good ester base I understand--better than most synthetics) that is LL-01-spec. But there are plenty of other Mobil 1 synthetics that don't meet LL-01 spec. I use it for my top-off oil __________________ Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. --Mark Twain
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Apogee Second Lieutenant 3 Rep 232 Posts Drives: 335d/Lancer Evolution X Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Olympia, Washington iTrader: (1)	mobil 1 just isn't what it used to be, they have dropped dramatically the amount of zinc in their oil and as we all know zinc is crucial for turbocharge applications.
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Chef NOLA Private 26 Rep 83 Posts Drives: 2021 X5 4.0i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Georgia iTrader: (0)	I've been running my 2006 E90 330i on a steady diet of Mobil 1 0W40 every 7.5K. Just sent in last sample from 48K to Blackstone and their report came back AAA. Lower wear than average and oil in fine condition. Run the 0W40 in my '04 X5 with same results. The other perfectly fine alternative is BMW's 5W30 (which is Castrol Syntec European).
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